Clover Moore's $110,000 gay & Lesbian rainbow crossing

[mellie]

Extended footage and public commentary...

http://www.northernstar.com.au/news/fil ... -/1783853/


Is it against the law for police to use physical force when a subject is resisting arrest?

No.

The question is whether or not this force was excessive.

What struck me as being odd is how the footage provided by the gay community only shows the accused being taken into custody, doesn't show the footage re- the chain of events which lead to the individual being arrested to begin with.

It's alleged Jamie Jackson had inappropriately touched (he claims he tickled) a female in the crowd.

A gay guy touching a girl?

Hmmmm

This sounds a little staged to me, could he have touched this girl in front of police (to which she is believed to have objected) with a view to instigating police response? A public demonstration?

Did he know the girl he tickled?

Now as a result of this incident, a prominent gay rights activist and film maker who also claims he was brutalised by police has instigated a gay rally against police brutality in Sydney in response to this video clip having gone viral.


Click on the above link and watch the extended footage with public commentary.

It seems, our film maker may have something else in mind for next years film fest.

[mellie]

This one still cracks me up....

http://news.msn.co.nz/worldnews/8514707 ... d-backflip

MY FIRST AND LAST OFF TOPIC VIDEO LINK LIKE THIS

He's gay, so therefor must be a victim, this and wouldn't have hurt himself doing something as stupid as a backflip surely?

[mellie]

New footage of the incident moments before police threw the offender to the ground.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/201 ... as-bashing

Here we see a young Jamie Jackson violently kicking and throwing punches at police moments before police used force to subdue him.

Be aware, that given the size and strength of the officer, it's possible he wasn't accustomed to throwing a 60 kilo kid to the ground, this and may not have intentionally thrown him to the ground as hard as he did.

Police are trained in tactical response to subdue individuals in this manner, some people are bigger than others, and when faced with having to deal with someone who is clearly out of control, this and is kicking and punching police, they react to the situation in accordance with how they have been trained.

Again, this kid has a history of being disrespectful towards police ... I find it odd that ACA didn't ask if this was the first incident he'd had with police when they interviewed him.



Actually ...no, it doesn't surprise me that they didn't.

At the end of the day, Jamie Jackson didn't sustain injuries consistent with excessive force.
No medical treatment was required and whilst he may be feeling bruised and uncomfortable, I dare say the police officers he punched and kicked are feeling it also.
He bumped his head on the pavement whilst police were attempting to subdue him after he resisted police arrest and had been kicking and throwing punches at them.

The question is, did the police use excessive force?

What is excessive force?

What else could police have done to subdue the accused, and how should they have reacted to him kicking and throwing punches at them whilst he was resisting arrest?

Perhaps a kewpie doll on a stick would have sufficed.

Gay or not, this individual broke the law.

It's an offense to resist police arrest, and it's an offense to assault a police officer.
And it's also an offense to touch or tickle a member of the public without having obtained their consent first.


People are arrested and subdued by police all the time, why is it such a big deal when it happens to a gay person at a gay and lesbian Mardi Gras?

[The Uncanny Hengeman]

Give the belligerent gay kid who got body slammed credit – he didn't pursue matters any further. He even graciously admits his memory of the incident is hazy. And as far as I know, even after the videos have gone viral, neither he nor his family have started baying for redress.

Maybe an ambulance chasing lawyer is yet to seduce them. It's free a bag of money, after all. You've just got to bend down and pick it up. It remains to be seen, I guess....

I'm fairly sure the blubbering teen drama queen had zero to do with these video clips appearing on the internet. Apart from being the star.

[mellie]

Give the belligerent gay kid who got body slammed credit – he didn't pursue matters any further. He even graciously admits his memory of the incident is hazy. And as far as I know, even after the videos have gone viral, neither he nor his family have started baying for redress.

Maybe an ambulance chasing lawyer is yet to seduce them. It's free a bag of money, after all. You've just got to bend down and pick it up. It remains to be seen, I guess....

I'm fairly sure the blubbering teen drama queen had zero to do with these video clips appearing on the internet. Apart from being the star.

Perhaps, though some of the commentary throughout the video clip might suggest the possibility of this incident being staged.

Tid-bits and rumors are circulating ... I'm confident more will come out in the wash.

Regardless, what we have all seen is footage of a young person assaulting police, resisting arrest and being physically subdued by police ... now where in the video is there any indication that it's because the young man is gay?

[mellie]

Bryn Hutchinson also claims to have been brutalised by police at the Mardi Gras.


http://gaynewsnetwork.com.au/contributo ... inson.html


And from the Green left comes this ....

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/53544

[boxy]

Look Boxy, all I'm asking is that we wait for the completion of inquiries before shooting off our mouths.

Gawd

The one poster best known for shooting off her mouth, demands that everyone else shut up, while she continues to spout off about it herself? How big a moron are you?

You're the one who tried to make out that the Indian nurse who suicided could have been the victim of an honour killing by her parents, FFS, so before you worry about egg on anyone else's face, how about scraping some of the shit off your own chin, dribbler.

[mellie]

Look Boxy, all I'm asking is that we wait for the completion of inquiries before shooting off our mouths.

Gawd

The one poster best known for shooting off her mouth, demands that everyone else shut up, while she continues to spout off about it herself? How big a moron are you?

You're the one who tried to make out that the Indian nurse who suicided could have been the victim of an honour killing by her parents, FFS, so before you worry about egg on anyone else's face, how about scraping some of the shit off your own chin, dribbler.

Honestly Boxy, if anyone's quick to blow their trumpet across all manner of issues, and jump on the social-media hate bandwagon it's you and Aussie.

Tell me Boxy, do you still feel the pangs of embarrassment from your last media hate onslaught re-Jacintha Saldanha when you and Aussie tried to blame the two Aussie DJ's for her death?

Just like you have accused police of using excessive force on a youth without having heard both sides of the story.

I was the one who said there had to be more to it, re- the Indian nurse and argued that perfectly sane and balanced people just don't top themselves due to having transferred a hoax call to a colleague.

.... Sorry Boxy, but I think you will find it was yourself and Aussie who yet again jumped the gun here again ...when like with the nurse incident...you were quick to defend the perceived right of one of your precious minorities.

[boxy]

I have to say, suicide by method of hanging is unusual for a female, particularly female nurses educated with the finer arts of a more aesthetic 'medicinal' exit.

I will just add hanging is not uncommon for honour killings for family who want to make it look like suicide.

[mellie]

I have to say, suicide by method of hanging is unusual for a female, particularly female nurses educated with the finer arts of a more aesthetic 'medicinal' exit.

I will just add hanging is not uncommon for honour killings for family who want to make it look like suicide.

That was in response to another individuals opinion, re- the possibility of it being an honour killing... and like I said if you care to read through the thread this and place what I wrote back into context, at the time it was early days, too soon to have accused anyone of being responsible for her death the way yourself and Aussie were quick to blame the Aussie DJ's case closed.....lol.

Now thats embarrassing isn't it boxy.

And embarrassing enough for you to abandon the thread as soon as it was revealed that the nurse had attempted to take her life twice before the DJ's called her place of work.

Face it boxy, you are as bigoted, narrow minded and judgmental as the best of them, the only difference between you and say a red neck black hating white supremacist is that you choose to vent your hatred towards the perceived majority.

It's called reverse discrimination, but this doesn't cast your bigotry in a better light, it just serves to reinforce, justify the hatred those you condemn have for your chosen minority.

Boxy, you are a hypocrite of the highest order... your philosophy is "do as I say, not as I do."

Tell me, do you still blame the DJ's for Jacinthas death?