Choosing a Gun

[boxy]

Heavily armed, supremely trained, an icon of the US gun culture... still dead.

[Super Nova]

Heavily armed, supremely trained, an icon of the US gun culture... still dead.

That's pretty fucked up. Being in Iraq for 4 years must leave many with a mental ilness. We train these poor bastards to be killers. We send them in to kill or be killed for long durations.

They return and there is no adjustment/conditioning to return them to non kill or be killed life.

We make these people.

I think the Rambo movies had a good point.

[Mattus]

There is a whole generation who have spent the last 12 years at war. When (if?) they come home, there will be social consequences in a scale greater than Vietnam.

Couple this with the end of the boom and the FIFO generation, we will see a big change in Australia. Expect some nutters.

[AiA in Atlanta]

Heavily armed, supremely trained, an icon of the US gun culture... still dead.

I enjoyed a private laff at this dead man's expense.

[AiA in Atlanta]

There is a whole generation who have spent the last 12 years at war. When (if?) they come home, there will be social consequences in a scale greater than Vietnam.

The difference between the Vietnam generation and the Iraq/Afhganistan generation is that the Vietnam vets were not treated as returning heroes like the current generation of soldiers. Instead they were vilified. I think that will make a difference. That being said, one reads of military suicides every day.

[Aussie]

Make guns, make money. In the USA, 30,000 die each year via a gun, 10,000 each year murdered with one. Fuck off NRA. (ABC Foreign Correspondent, tonight.)

[IQS.RLOW]

Make guns, make money. In the USA, 30,000 die each year via a gun, 10,000 each year murdered with one. Fuck off NRA. (ABC Foreign Correspondent, tonight.)

Link?

[Aussie]

Make guns, make money. In the USA, 30,000 die each year via a gun, 10,000 each year murdered with one. Fuck off NRA. (ABC Foreign Correspondent, tonight.)

Link?

Not yet available. You are the alleged IT smart arse. Do the Google on 'ABC Foreign Correspondent NRA."

As if you cared anyway.

[IQS.RLOW]

Link or it didn't happen

[boxy]

Link

On this private range in Tennessee Debra Maggart and her friends are obsessive about safety and take pride in their skills, but the reality is that every year about 30,000 Americans die at the end of a gun. Most are suicides, but on average a third, around 10,000 people a year are murdered, a death toll totally out of kilter with the rest of the developed world.

The NRA blames everything other than guns - primarily the failure to identify and treat people with mental illnesses, also excessively violent video games and movies. Yet it insists politicians should do nothing to infringe the right of Americans to bear arms.

I think any change is protracted, incremental and painful. It’s hard to know ‘cause you’re really operating against some very powerful forces. Night time is much harder for me. But it’s bitter sweet because for instance last night I had a very vivid dream about Noah. It was quite wonderful. It was difficult to wake up and realise the bleakness... well I guess the bleakness of the weather sort of matched my mood that it wasn’t real.

The Important Field

I hear in some places, you need one form of ID to buy a gun, but two to pay for it by cheque.
It's interesting who has what incentives to care about what mistakes.