Global Warming

[Rorschach]

Thanks Mattus... what a load of rot.
What rock have you been living under? Uluru perhaps.

Writing to Jones, Peter Thorne of the U.K. Met Office advised caution, saying: “Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these further if necessary…”

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A simple google will point to any number of articles that factually address your illusions.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Why do you believe that when there is no evidence that the CO2 is the cause of the warming? Faith?

No evidence? What planet are you on? .. there's $#!+loads of evidence, just like there's plenty of evidence regarding CO2's role in past GW scenarios, like the Permian Extinction 250 odd million years ago for example.

See, what most don't get is the CO2 just gets the melt rolling. Once the frozen Methane Clathrates thaw we're in a 'Runaway Global Warming' scenario.
Both Russian and Swedish navies discovered huge areas in Arctic seas where the CH4 is bubbling to the surface in 2007.
That means we've passed the 'Tipping point' all the so called scare mongers say we need to avoid.
That's why I keep saying there's no point trying to avert it, we're in it.
And having passed the point of no return, means nothing we do regardless of how well intentioned efforts may be can stop it.
Mitigation, adaptation and survivial are our only real long term options. And it will happen far sooner than most so called experts are willing to admit or prognosticate. Factors involved tend to build exponentially, so we get bigger impacts sooner.

This stuff is nothing new. The planet has had GW induced global floods numerous times before .. 3 within the last 18,000 years actually, since the last glacial maximum 21,000 to 18,000 years ago.

Have a look at Graham Hancock's underwater 'Yonagumi' photos @ his site 'Underworld' and tell me those features are not human carved and/or quarried structures. And sites like those are being found all over the planet.

GW or CC denialists remind me of the humans in a Planet of the Apes movie who worshiped a nuclear missile.

[IQS.RLOW]

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THE UN's climate change chief, Rajendra Pachauri, has acknowledged a 17-year pause in global temperature rises, confirmed recently by Britain's Met Office,

[Rorschach]

Someone will have to check this out, I won't have the time in the next couple of weeks.

Eco-fascist-james-hansen-admits-global-warming-is-not-man-made

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[Super Nova]

Man, the more I read the more I feel we have been fed some concerns that are not being realised further feeding those anti-climate change movement.

Here is another story that will now feed them. It's time for the scientific community to make a statement that is clear and put the real science and probabilities on the table in a manner that can be understood and can be monitoroed in a way we can all understand with action plans when monitored events go a certain direction.

Rainforests may be more resilient than feared: study

The world's tropical forests are less likely to lose biomass, or plant material, this century due to the effects of global warming than previously thought, scientists said in a paper published in the journal Nature Geoscience on Sunday.

This adds to growing evidence that rainforests might be more resilient to the effects of climate change than feared.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/environment/cl ... z2NDgwTK9C

[Super Nova]

What is needed as a worldwide risk analysis that is supproted by science and governments to agree.

Then we should all agree the actions to be taken, on a worldwide bases if and when a risk materialises.

Simple reall. Companies do it. Governments do it> now the world needs to do it. This will take the debate to a new level where we have pre-agreed actions when certain risk levels are reached. It is the only political way forward I can see.

Risk analysis is the process of defining and analyzing the dangers to individuals, businesses and government agencies posed by potential natural and human-caused adverse events. In IT, a risk analysis report can be used to align technology-related objectives with a company's business objectives. A risk analysis report can be either quantitative or qualitative.

In quantitative risk analysis, an attempt is made to numerically determine the probabilities of various adverse events and the likely extent of the losses if a particular event takes place.

Qualitative risk analysis, which is used more often, does not involve numerical probabilities or predictions of loss. Instead, the qualitative method involves defining the various threats, determining the extent of vulnerabilities and devising countermeasures should an attack occur.

[al.coholic]

You haveto be a real dummy to actually believe the flat earthers scam on global warming.
Especially as it has been debunked and debunked and debunked.
And then the flat earthers constantly change their analysis, take Tim Flannery for starters.
First he says due to global warming there will never ever be enough rain to fill the dams again.
After all the dams were full and Qld had their floods, Tim Flannery then says that the dam filling rains are due to global warming.
I mean what FUCKWIT is going to believe anything about global warming.
It has been proved to be nothing but a scam being spread by alarmist fuckwits!

[Outlaw Yogi]

So Australia just had (2012) its hottest year on record, but the Earth is not warming? or temps have remained static for 16 years, yet almost all the heat extreme records have been set within the last 10 years? .. Sounds like a pretty absurd position to take considering the instrumental record, no matter what deniers claim the Brit met office supposedly says.

I remember in 2005 when DT posted a graph manufactured by Chris Monkton and republished by Andrew Bolt, despite the graph and supporting details proven to be a complete fraud. And DT claimed this info was supported by NASA. Knowing NASA's Goddard space centre was saying the exact opposite, I went to the NASA site, read everything available, retrieved and posted the 7 publicly available links in PA, and challenged DT to illustrate exactly where NASA disputed rather than supported GHG induced global warming. Of course he couldn't. So I presume the claims regarding the Brit met office are just more global warming denier fabrications.

When global warming first became a big public issue, the GW deniers disputed the existence of global warming, and even on occasion claimed the Earth was cooling.
Then when global warming became undeniable, the coal industry fashioned the term 'Climate Change', the deniers now called skeptics disputed GHGs were the cause, and blamed the sun. Saying solar radiance had increased, making Earth hotter, but upon checking I found solar radiance had dimmed during the period in question, yet the planet continued to warm up.

So far pretty much every theory GW deniers come up with has proven wrong by basic physics and recorded facts.

Their only theory which might have some basis is increased levels of cosmic radiation from the centre of our galaxy (Milky Way) .. which then ties in with the ancient Greek psuedo-religious trippy hippy theory the 'Precession of the Equinoxes' ... in which catastrophism resulting from increased cosmic radiation is a regular event roughly every 13,000 years as our solar system's orbital trajectory passes closer to the centre of the galaxy.
This theory remains unproven and quite possibly may not ever be proven or debunked.

[mellie]

THE President of the Czech Republic has likened climate change to a totalitarian philosophy similar to Communism which will inhibit democratic freedoms.

President Vaclav Klaus used an address at the National Press Club in Canberra today to attack the "arrogance" of global warming advocates and warned of the futility of trying to fight the climate.

Mr Klaus said supporters of climate change action sought to suppress the free market, dictate prices and exert greater control over society. He said those who had not experienced life under a centrally planned communist regime did not place the same premium on freedom.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 6102111423


What do you understand about Al Gore Sr?

And his association with Hammer?


Carbon Tax is a internationalist socialist (communist) tax.

Australian Communist Party v The Commonwealth (1951) 83 CLR 1, also known as the Communist Party Case, was a legal case in the High Court of Australia described as "undoubtedly one of the High Court's most important decisions

http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/2918185

I think Tony in Menzies honor will do what needs to be done to curb the creep of communism policy in this country.

Just know, we will never get rid of it entirely, it's a festering scab, one the ALP decided to pick again after all these years hoping most of us would not spot the signs.

[Super Nova]

I think carbon tax is a poorly designed attempt to begin to control behaviour around limiting carbon emissions.

Has anyone noticed it's not "Global Warming" anymore but called "Climate Change". I wonder why the change

I think those that doubt climate change and the eventual long term warming of the planet have their head in the sand. We need a way to address this. I think the issue is the politicl impotence of the world governance system. We need a new world poltiics.








Appoint me king and I will fix it all.