Science Updates

[Rorschach]

Hmmm.... I'm sorry but those FACTS seem to negate the rest of your article.

Happy for you to prove me wrong by submitting the image of the front page news item that states differently.

[annielaurie]

No one is going to "prove" anyone right or wrong on this issue for a long time, so hold your horses.

Scientific method is painstaking, requiring observation, gathering of evidence, controlled study, hypotheses submitted in writing by biologists and geneticists to be reviewed by their peers within the science community around the world, and so on.

All of this takes time. Science is a process. There is no definite "fact" about anything yet. There will be no frontpage headline announcing, "Science proves gays are made, not born!"

Rorsch, have you got any evidence to submit to support your "fact" that there is no gay gene, and that gay sex is a choice that can easily be reversed?

There may not be "proof" there is a gay gene just yet, but there probably will be in time. Because the evidence is already leading in that direction. Just hold your horses.

[Neferti]

No one is going to "prove" anyone right or wrong on this issue for a long time, so hold your horses.

Scientific method is painstaking, requiring observation, gathering of evidence, controlled study, hypotheses submitted in writing by biologists and geneticists to be reviewed by their peers within the science community around the world, and so on.

All of this takes time. Science is a process. There is no definite "fact" about anything yet. There will be no frontpage headline announcing, "Science proves gays are made, not born!"

Rorsch, have you got any evidence to submit to support your "fact" that there is no gay gene, and that gay sex is a choice that can easily be reversed?

There may not be "proof" there is a gay gene just yet, but there probably will be in time. Because the evidence is already leading in that direction. Just hold your horses.

Gays and Lesbians need a scientific method to prove why they are Homosexual. Get real. They do it because it "excites" them.

The same as paedophiles get excited about kids and some people get excited about their dog's bums.

I know females who married and had children and when hubby cheated or they got sick of him, they decided they preferred females ..........

I have a nephew who is "gay". I picked this when he has about 13-14. His parents denied it because he had "lots of girlfriends" until he was "living with" a guy who was obviously "gay". I think they realise that he will only "marry" a male these days.

[Rorschach]

No one is going to "prove" anyone right or wrong on this issue for a long time, so hold your horses.

Scientific method is painstaking, requiring observation, gathering of evidence, controlled study, hypotheses submitted in writing by biologists and geneticists to be reviewed by their peers within the science community around the world, and so on.

All of this takes time. Science is a process. There is no definite "fact" about anything yet. There will be no frontpage headline announcing, "Science proves gays are made, not born!"

Rorsch, have you got any evidence to submit to support your "fact" that there is no gay gene, and that gay sex is a choice that can easily be reversed?

There may not be "proof" there is a gay gene just yet, but there probably will be in time. Because the evidence is already leading in that direction. Just hold your horses.

Honestly Annie I asked first don't you think it's a bit unfair to answer by asking a question?
There's just as much chance that they won't find one Annie.
I note some bias creeping in there...
1/ I did say as yet
2/ I never mentioned reversing or needing to reverse anything. Bad Annie.

My proof? So far it hasn't been discovered. No GAY gene.
Re the article...

Italian researchers have made a new discovery that solidifies the understand that homosexuality — at least in men — has a strong genetic component. Though this study does not identify a specific gay gene, which probably does not exist, it does demonstrate what role genetics play.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/06/1 ... sexuality/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Having read up on the study, I'd say the so-called conclusions are more opinion than real facts. That's not to say it is not an interesting idea. But not one I think will survive in its present form. There tends to be a bit of misogyny and stereotype involved in the thinking (typically Italian BTW) and unless there was a twins study to back it up and unless no ugly women have gay progeny I think the odds are against it being correct.

Also I think twisting the language to make a biological principle fit is a really long bow.

[IQS.RLOW]

Annie is all over the shop on this subject saying that she doesn't believe it is a choice yet introduces the contradiction of situational homosexuality

Think of it as the attraction and attempt of individuals to "mate" with same sex partners, because of a natural selection mechanism in populations of some mammals in environments where there is overcrowding.

You cannot believe that it is not a choice and simultaneously believe in situational homosexuality

[AiA in Atlanta]

Do you find men alluring AiA is that your problem?

A rather cheap shot, don't you think?

[annielaurie]

Annie is all over the shop on this subject saying that she doesn't believe it is a choice yet introduces the contradiction of situational homosexuality

Think of it as the attraction and attempt of individuals to "mate" with same sex partners, because of a natural selection mechanism in populations of some mammals in environments where there is overcrowding.

You cannot believe that it is not a choice and simultaneously believe in situational homosexuality

Think in terms of "situational homosexuality" in large populations, and over subsequent generations.

This is where natural selection comes in. Genetic code could possibly modify itself so that subsequent generations are born more suited to the situation.

If in certain groups a population of mammals is too dense, genetic code might be able to modify itself to produce some of the offspring, male or female, incapable or uninterested in mating with opposite sex partners, to reduce their numbers: fewers individuals, less crowding, etc.

[Rorschach]

Do you find men alluring AiA is that your problem?

A rather cheap shot, don't you think?

No I don't... are you homophobic?

You made a statement AiA.... I merely asked a question based on it.

The cheap shot, the repugnant shot, came from you previously.

[Rorschach]

Annie is all over the shop on this subject saying that she doesn't believe it is a choice yet introduces the contradiction of situational homosexuality

Think of it as the attraction and attempt of individuals to "mate" with same sex partners, because of a natural selection mechanism in populations of some mammals in environments where there is overcrowding.

You cannot believe that it is not a choice and simultaneously believe in situational homosexuality

Think in terms of "situational homosexuality" in large populations, and over subsequent generations.

This is where natural selection comes in. Genetic code could possibly modify itself so that subsequent generations are born more suited to the situation.

If in certain groups a population of mammals is too dense, genetic code might be able to modify itself to produce some of the offspring, male or female, incapable or uninterested in mating with opposite sex partners, to reduce their numbers: fewers individuals, less crowding, etc.

Annie... China? india?

[AiA in Atlanta]

Do you find men alluring AiA is that your problem?

A rather cheap shot, don't you think?

No I don't... are you homophobic?

You made a statement AiA.... I merely asked a question based on it.

The cheap shot, the repugnant shot, came from you previously.

As usual no one knows what in God's name you are blathering about Roach