Mad Mel's Marvelous Measles

[boxy]

January 2nd, 2013
Two things I'd like to bring to your attention today. One, Al Jazeera reports that hundreds of children have died in Pakistan as a result of a measles outbreak. According to the World Health Organisation, the disease killed 306 children last year, up from just 64 in 2011. The WHO hasn't given a reason, but a "provincial health official in Sindh said that the disease hit areas where poor families did not vaccinate their children."

"Many Pakistanis, especially in rural areas, view vaccination campaigns with suspicion as a western plot to sterilise Muslims," the story continues.

I would like you to keep that story in mind when you take a look at the second thing, which is this book, being sold on Amazon, called "Melanie's Marvelous Measles", written by some hippie-dippie Age of Aquarius type who thinks Natural Equals Good:

Melanie's Marvelous Measles was written to educate children on the benefits of having measles and how you can heal from them naturally and successfully. Often today, we are being bombarded with messages from vested interests to fear all diseases in order for someone to sell some potion or vaccine, when, in fact, history shows that in industrialized countries, these diseases are quite benign and, according to natural health sources, beneficial to the body.

Bloody, kid killing, hippies, someone should blow them up.

[Aussie]

Do you really have a job which requires any attention or effort at all?

[mellie]

January 2nd, 2013
Two things I'd like to bring to your attention today. One, Al Jazeera reports that hundreds of children have died in Pakistan as a result of a measles outbreak. According to the World Health Organisation, the disease killed 306 children last year, up from just 64 in 2011. The WHO hasn't given a reason, but a "provincial health official in Sindh said that the disease hit areas where poor families did not vaccinate their children."

"Many Pakistanis, especially in rural areas, view vaccination campaigns with suspicion as a western plot to sterilise Muslims," the story continues.

I would like you to keep that story in mind when you take a look at the second thing, which is this book, being sold on Amazon, called "Melanie's Marvelous Measles", written by some hippie-dippie Age of Aquarius type who thinks Natural Equals Good:

Melanie's Marvelous Measles was written to educate children on the benefits of having measles and how you can heal from them naturally and successfully. Often today, we are being bombarded with messages from vested interests to fear all diseases in order for someone to sell some potion or vaccine, when, in fact, history shows that in industrialized countries, these diseases are quite benign and, according to natural health sources, beneficial to the body.

Bloody, kid killing, hippies, someone should blow them up.

There is no benefit or logic to deliberately subjecting your child to preventable and life-threatening disease.

For those concerned with the preservative thiomersal, (aka mercury) you can request vaccines (they may cost a little more) without the additives which increase pharmaceutical companies profits by increasing their shelf life.

A little careful research will ensure you request the right brand vaccine, you should print the vaccine schedule from the government website to ensure the vaccines you are requesting don't contain the harmful additives.

The only problem is, you may have to contact your preferred clinic to ensure they have the required vaccine on the day you plan to immunise your child with, or else they will offer you an alternative that may contain the undesirable and unnecessary additive thiomersal.

But as for not immunising them at all, ...that's just lefty stupidity.

[Neferti]

There is no benefit or logic to deliberately subjecting your child to preventable and life-threatening disease.

For those concerned with the preservative thiomersal, (aka mercury) you can request vaccines (they may cost a little more) without the additives which increase pharmaceutical companies profits by increasing their shelf life.

A little careful research will ensure you request the right brand vaccine, you should print the vaccine schedule from the government website to ensure the vaccines you are requesting don't contain the harmful additives.

The only problem is, you may have to contact your preferred clinic to ensure they have the required vaccine on the day you plan to immunise your child with, or else they will offer you an alternative that may contain the undesirable and unnecessary additive thiomersal.

But as for not immunising them at all, ...that's just lefty stupidity.

Well don't blame Health or the ALP when your baby gets whooping cough or measles and becomes blind, dead or mentally disabled.... it is still going around due to parents like you. I even had to have a booster shot for Whooping Cough some years ago.

Oh, and Mel. Autism is NOT caused by the inoculations. Your daughter "got it" because of your genes. Your new daughter could get it as well, if is in your GENES and has nothing to do with the inoculations.

Keep her free from basic health and IF she ever becomes Autistic or even Bipolar, remember that you are not saving your child you are actually putting her at RISK. Your choice. but do NOT blame The Government for your kids mental and health problems.

[mellie]

Nerf, don't speak of what you don't knoweth.

At an international conference where there were over 1000 paediatricians, specialists, researchers ... they cast their vote as to whether or not they thought Thiomersal was safe, this and had the potential to cause autism in susceptible children. Those with a metabolic disorder, or those who adversely react or are allergic to the preservative and heavy metal drug thiomersal.

Anyway, after the votes were counted, and a three day long summit... the verdict was in.

Half didn't think thiomersal was of concern, half did, so the outcome of the summit was that thiomersal was removed from most, (not all) routine childhood vaccines across the developed world.

The consensus was, and still is.... "when in doubt, leave it out."..

Furthermore, there have been a number of parents who have successfully sued in the states, due to adverse affects of thiomersal.

Bottom line Nerf.... it's not necessary, the only advantage is to the drug company, because thiomersal increases shelf life.

Personally, I remain on the fence about it all... and like 50% of those who attended the summit agree, when in doubt leave it out.

As for autism genes.... perhaps, though given my daughters father was adopted, he had no idea a number of his half-siblings children are in fact on the spectrum at the time we had our daughter....of which should tell you that there is a tendency for autism to run in families, true... but this isn't to say it's an 'autism gene' per say.


Genes you think?

Do you even know what genes are?

Some doctors believe they don't inherit autism as such, rather they have an inherited metabolic disorder which renders them more sensitive to heavy metal contaminants, this is they aren't able to excrete specific elements of the drug most can, this or they have an inherited sensitivity/allergy to it full stop.
Similarly, you can give a group of children the same amount of petrol to sniff...some will be more effected than others, this is, appear more damaged than their peers.
Likewise with alcohol...some people will end up with a shot liver after 20 years of abuse, others develop cirrhosis within 5 years.

It comes down to an individuals own inherited resistance/threshold, so this may play a part.



Much research is being done in this area at present, and there's so much more to be done.


Whats interesting is the increasing number of children presenting on the spectrum, hence some believe it's a consequence of modern living, and how some children react adversely to specific additives.


Nerf I have told you before, there is no autism on my side of the family, though unfortunately, there is on my ex's.

Another theory is that some people have an excretory disorder... this is, they don't excrete harmful elements in their natural,/unnatural environment the way most of us do.

Interestingly, Asthma, eczema skin disorders, allergies seems to be a common affliction among those with autism.

Theres so much we don't understand about autism Nerf....personally, I am not prepared to rule anything out just yet.

[mellie]

And Nerf, you really should have read my post properly, I agree with you that not immunising children is negligent and irresponsible, hence I have gone to the trouble of insisting my new daughter is fully immunised, only this time I have ensured she has received the mercury-free vaccines which contain no thiomersal.

Most vaccines no longer contain it (ever since the summits findings)...so it's only a few that still have it.



My philosophy when it comes to any additives is.... if they aren't required, then why add them?

Thiomersal is one additive our children can do without, for as we all know... heavy metals never completely leave our bodies this and affect people ...especially little people differently.


The truth is Nerf....adding the preservative thiomersal acts as a preservative, this and increases shelf life.

The reason why vaccines containing thiomersal are still being produced for and used in poorer nations (some of which are even expired ).. is because their governments cant afford/aren't prepared to subsidise the thiomersal-free more expensive alternative.

I guess they figure....better to vaccinate them with the mercury laced vaccine they can afford, than to offer them nothing at all.

eg) If only one kid in 100 becomes autistic because of the mercury laced vaccine, then that's better than far more of them dying or becoming disabled due to preventable disease if they don't immunise them at all.

Also...when the developed nations banned the additive in routine childhood immunisations, the left-over stock was pulled from our shelves and sent to third world countries.



Many of these poorer nations blame the west for vaccines containing this preservative, this and insist that it's an evil plan to kill them off.

The truth is, they need to be asking their own governments why they wont subsidise the mercury-free more expensive alternative.


It comes down to $$$$$$$$$$$$$$4

It always does.

[Neferti]

Nerf, don't speak of what you don't knoweth.

At an international conference where there were over 1000 paediatricians, specialists, researchers ... they cast their vote as to whether or not they thought Thiomersal was safe, this and had the potential to cause autism in susceptible children. Those with a metabolic disorder, or those who adversely react or are allergic to the preservative and heavy metal drug thiomersal.

Anyway, after the votes were counted, and a three day long summit... the verdict was in.

Half didn't think thiomersal was of concern, half did, so the outcome of the summit was that thiomersal was removed from most, (not all) routine childhood vaccines across the developed world.

The consensus was, and still is.... "when in doubt, leave it out."..

Furthermore, there have been a number of parents who have successfully sued in the states, due to adverse affects of thiomersal.

Bottom line Nerf.... it's not necessary, the only advantage is to the drug company, because thiomersal increases shelf life.

Personally, I remain on the fence about it all... and like 50% of those who attended the summit agree, when in doubt leave it out.

As for autism genes.... perhaps, though given my daughters father was adopted, he had no idea a number of his half-siblings children are in fact on the spectrum at the time we had our daughter....of which should tell you that there is a tendency for autism to run in families, true... but this isn't to say it's an 'autism gene' per say.


Genes you think?

Do you even know what genes are?

Some doctors believe they don't inherit autism as such, rather they have an inherited metabolic disorder which renders them more sensitive to heavy metal contaminants, this is they aren't able to excrete specific elements of the drug most can, this or they have an inherited sensitivity/allergy to it full stop.
Similarly, you can give a group of children the same amount of petrol to sniff...some will be more effected than others, this is, appear more damaged than their peers.
Likewise with alcohol...some people will end up with a shot liver after 20 years of abuse, others develop cirrhosis within 5 years.

It comes down to an individuals own inherited resistance/threshold, so this may play a part.



Much research is being done in this area at present, and there's so much more to be done.


Whats interesting is the increasing number of children presenting on the spectrum, hence some believe it's a consequence of modern living, and how some children react adversely to specific additives.


Nerf I have told you before, there is no autism on my side of the family, though unfortunately, there is on my ex's.

Another theory is that some people have an excretory disorder... this is, they don't excrete harmful elements in their natural,/unnatural environment the way most of us do.

Interestingly, Asthma, eczema skin disorders, allergies seems to be a common affliction among those with autism.

Theres so much we don't understand about autism Nerf....personally, I am not prepared to rule anything out just yet.

As a Bipolar sufferer, Mel, YOU are the one with the damaged X genes. Like Bipolar (formerly Manic Depressive Illness) you have passed these genes down to your offspring. There's a 50% chance that your kids will have either MDI or Autism. Or WORSE if you don't have them inoculated for "ordinary" childhood diseases, such as measles, mumps. whooping cough, etc. Tuberculosis has been detected in Australia due to the "asylum seekers" .... this was stamped out back in the 1950's due to chest X-rays which were compulsory for all. Polio has been eradicated but ...... with the African/Asian population infecting this country, this could return as well.

Please, have your baby inoculated forthwith. IF she is Autistic, it isn't contagious, but measles, whooping cough, etc are and are far more dangerous to a child's health.

PS. yes read what you said. Stop worrying about kids eating the window ledges and thus getting "lead poisoning" from the paint.

Your GENES and those of the father of your child are what matters. Changing fathers won't matter if the "autistic gene" comes from you, as I suspect it does.

I say it as I think. So, sorry Mel, if I upset you.

[mellie]

A bipolar sufferer?

Moi?






Are you ok Nerf... been sucking on that goon again?

[mellie]

It's a little early isn't it?

Again, I think you should re-read my post Nerf.

All my children are fully immunised, and the fact that you implied otherwise tells me either you have a comprehension problem, are trolling me, or have some other problem you would rather not talk about.

[mellie]

Furthermore Nerf... if anyone here is autistic, it's you and a few anti-social/socially awkward others who have difficulty relating with people 'normally'.

Do you even know what autism is?

Bipolar too for that matter?


Sorry Nerf, I cant help but think you are trolling me again.... ... what else explains your false and baseless uneducated assumptions which I believe you had hoped would get some sort of reaction?

Fact is...


http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccin ... /UCM096228

Theoretical or otherwise....there was enough cause for concern to remove this preservative from our children's vaccines.

Like I said.....it was 50/50 at the summit.

Of which is alarming in itself given half of them had concerns for this additive being in the vaccines they were administering to their own patients.