Global Warming

[IQS.RLOW]

Good thing you werent around 140000 years ago or 30000 years ago...your pants would have matched your brown shirt and you wouldn't be able to blame on TEH EVIL CAPITALISTS!!!!1111!!!!



What would you socialist bleeding vags sacrificed back then?

[AiA in Atlanta]

The following are examples of modern writers perpetuating
the myth of the 1970s global cooling scientific consensus.

Citing Singer (1998) as their source of information, Singer
and Avery (2007) indicate that the National Academy of
Science (1975) experts exhibited “hysterical fears” about a
“finite possibility” that a serious worldwide cooling could
befall the Earth, and that Ponte (1976) captured the “thenprevailing mood” by contending that the Earth may be on
the brink of an ice age.

Balling (1992) posits,
Could the [cold] winters of the late 1970s be the signal that
we were returning to yet another ice age? According to many
outspoken climate scientists in the late 1970s, the answer was
absolutely yes—and we needed action now to cope with the
coming changes . . . However, some scientists were skeptical,
and they pointed to a future of global warming, not cooling,
resulting from a continued build up of greenhouse gases.
These scientists were in the minority at the time.

According to horner (2007), the massive funding of
climate change research was prompted by “ ‘consensus’
panic over ‘global cooling’.” This was “three decades
ago—when the media were fanning frenzy about global
cooling” (Will 2008) or, as Will (2004) succinctly put it,
“the fashionable panic was about global cooling.” “So,
before we take global warming as a scientific truth, we
should note that the opposite theory was once scientific
verity” (Bray 1991).

In a narrative, Crichton (2004) put it this way:
“Just think how far we have come!” Henley said. “Back in
the 1970s, all the climate scientists believed an ice age was
coming. They thought the world was getting colder. But once
the notion of global warming was raised, they immediately
recognized the advantages. Global warming creates a crisis,
a call to action. A crisis needs to be studied, it needs to be
funded . . .”

According to Michaels (2004),
Thirty years ago there was much scientific discussion
among those who believed that humans inf luenced
the . . . reflectivity [which would] cool the earth, more
than . . . increasing carbon dioxide, causing warming. Back
then, the “coolers” had the upper hand because, indeed, the
planet was cooling . . . But nature quickly shifted gears . . .
Needless to say, the abrupt shift in the climate caused almost
as abrupt a shift in the balance of scientists who predictably
followed the temperature.

Giddens (1999) states,
Yet only about 25 or so years ago, orthodox scientific opinion
was that the world was in a phase of global cooling. Much the
same evidence that was deployed to support the hypothesis
of global cooling is now brought into play to bolster that of
global warming — heat waves, cold spells, unusual types
of weather.

[Super Nova]

Box's graph is similar to Nasa's graph.

Link: (can not post the image) http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v3/

Shows a clear increase over the last century.

[Super Nova]

This provides a better view to give your graph better context.



Showing this patern over long periods is to indicate this is natural only. What happens when this cycle kicks in fully and we have pumped too much greenhouse into the atmosphere.

[Rorschach]

I am open minded.

How about you guys have a look at data on a site that has some credibility.

Try here: http://climate.nasa.gov/key_indicators
and Here: http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence

Please tell me why NASA is telling bullshit.

Oh so all the information we've been posting isn't credible..

Forget I ever said anything SN... I give in.

BTW boxy's graph stops when temps started going down.

[Rorschach]

You do realise don't you that CO2 release comes after an initial rise in temperature and that there is a very large time lag between the two?

What if the very large time lag coincided with industrialisation and was exacerbating the current situation? Oh sorry that just couldn't be happening could it.

BTW can't see flash stuff.
Oh and the hadcrut and met data according to nasa concurs with their data therefore the graphs and temps I've been putting up concurs also even if you say they are not credible.
Pity the Nasa graphs you chose, only show the highest points in their error range and that their scale is so miserable that it distorts the actual outcomes. Be that as it may we aren't even talking about 1 degree of variation in most cases.

[Rorschach]

The following are examples of modern writers perpetuating
the myth of the 1970s global cooling scientific consensus.

Citing Singer (1998) as their source of information, Singer
and Avery (2007) indicate that the National Academy of
Science (1975) experts exhibited “hysterical fears” about a
“finite possibility” that a serious worldwide cooling could
befall the Earth, and that Ponte (1976) captured the “thenprevailing mood” by contending that the Earth may be on the brink of an ice age.

Balling (1992) posits,
Could the [cold] winters of the late 1970s be the signal that
we were returning to yet another ice age? According to many
outspoken climate scientists in the late 1970s, the answer was
absolutely yes—and we needed action now to cope with the
coming changes . . . However, some scientists were skeptical,
and they pointed to a future of global warming, not cooling,
resulting from a continued build up of greenhouse gases.
These scientists were in the minority at the time.

According to horner (2007), the massive funding of
climate change research was prompted by “ ‘consensus’
panic over ‘global cooling’.” This was “three decades
ago—when the media were fanning frenzy about global
cooling” (Will 2008) or, as Will (2004) succinctly put it,
“the fashionable panic was about global cooling.” “So,
before we take global warming as a scientific truth, we
should note that the opposite theory was once scientific
verity” (Bray 1991).

In a narrative, Crichton (2004) put it this way:
“Just think how far we have come!” Henley said. “Back in
the 1970s, all the climate scientists believed an ice age was
coming. They thought the world was getting colder. But once
the notion of global warming was raised, they immediately
recognized the advantages. Global warming creates a crisis,
a call to action. A crisis needs to be studied, it needs to be
funded . . .”

According to Michaels (2004),
Thirty years ago there was much scientific discussion
among those who believed that humans inf luenced
the . . . reflectivity [which would] cool the earth, more
than . . . increasing carbon dioxide, causing warming. Back
then, the “coolers” had the upper hand because, indeed, the
planet was cooling . . . But nature quickly shifted gears . . .
Needless to say, the abrupt shift in the climate caused almost
as abrupt a shift in the balance of scientists who predictably
followed the temperature.

Giddens (1999) states,
Yet only about 25 or so years ago, orthodox scientific opinion
was that the world was in a phase of global cooling. Much the
same evidence that was deployed to support the hypothesis
of global cooling is now brought into play to bolster that of
global warming — heat waves, cold spells, unusual types
of weather.

Thanks AiA it appears your post has just backed me up.

[Rorschach]

Oh and SN... you don't seem to understand that no one is denying there has been warming and no one is denying there is increasing atmospheric CO2.

But Correlation does not equal Causation and climate is much more complicated than CO2, as IQS keeps pointing out regularly.

[Rorschach]

IPCC's 'Gold Standard' Temperature Dataset Authenticates Global Cooling Over Last 15 Years
The UK's HadCRUT3 global temperature dataset has been the IPCC's gold-standard for its political-agenda "science" reports - unfortunately for the IPCC, the HadCRUT dataset also confirms the disappearance of global warming, replaced by a very slight cooling trend

http://www.c3headlines.com/global-cooli ... ncetrends/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NASA's James Hansen's finally concedes 'flat' global temps: Hansen's 'remarkable' comments on global warming standstill: 'The five-year mean global temperature has been flat for the last decade...

http://www.climatedepot.com/a/19206/NAS ... ast-decade" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Rorschach]

Given that nasa concurs with hadcrut temps etc

Lets look at that last really small area on the graph that scale has hidden shall we SN.



Looks a bit different now doesn't it... harder to ignore the downturn when you can actually see it eh.