Reasons not to vote LABOR.

[Rorschach]

Sorry mantra that's all ad hom and crap.
Maybe you should go back to school and learn how to debate and refute things factually.

I'm not asking you to try again the first attempt makes it seem to be beyond your capabilities.

[Rorschach]

January 13, 2013 12:00AM - TODAY is the day on which the Gillard minority Labor-Independent-Green government equals the Rudd Labor government's total time in office - 935 days.

fact or not mantra?

many Australians who would like the opportunity to vote for a party which can demonstrate a clear mandate to govern,

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If anyone is in doubt the Rudd government was bad, just recall that Gillard told the public his government had lost its way.

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When Rudd attempted a comeback at the beginning of last year, his party colleagues queued to describe Kevvie from Brizzie as chaotic, unfit to be prime minister, a psychopath and responsible for sabotaging the 2010 election campaign.

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In its first year in government (2008-09) the Rudd government produced a $27 billion deficit; a $54.5 billion deficit in 2009-10 and a $47.5 billion deficit in 2010-11.

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The Gillard government produced a $43.4 billion deficit in 2011-12

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Remember, too, that the Rudd government inherited a Treasury with a healthy surplus

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left Australia with $42.3 billion of net debt for 2009-10 and $84.6 billion of net debt for 2010-11.

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The Gillard government then drove the nation further into the red by pushing our net debt up to $147 billion in 2011-12.

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In the latest Budget update, net debt is estimated to fall to $144 billion by the end of the 2012-13

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Five years ago, the Rudd government lifted the nation's credit card limit to $75 billion, increasing it again the following year to $200 billion. The Gillard government increased the country's credit limit to $250 billion in 2011 and again to $300 billion in 2012.

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The ALP government

squandered national savings on worthless policies.

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Rudd started with near-empty processing centres as the Howard government had stopped the flow of boats. Under the Rudd government 140 boats arrived with 6,552 asylum seekers.

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Under the Gillard government (which announced the "Malaysia solution" people swap which relied on a country that had not signed the UN Refugee Convention) 405 boats have arrived carrying 25,266 asylum seekers - more people than live in many sizeable towns - and there have been 1000 or more lives lost by those lured to try and breach the stretched border security net.

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That number far exceeds the four lives lost during the bungled implementation of the Rudd government's ill-conceived $2.4 billion Home Insulation Plan which also saw the destruction of at least 224 houses, possibly the Rudd government's greatest policy failure.

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As far as policy failures go, the Gillard government's carbon tax, which has helped deliver the largest quarterly rise in electricity prices since 1980,

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its mining tax which last year collected no revenue.

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Cost-of-living pressures under the Rudd government, from the December quarter of 2007 to the June quarter of 2010 saw electricity prices increased by an average of 34 per cent across Australia. Gas prices rose by an average of 26 per cent and water and sewerage rates increased by an average of 29 per cent.

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Health costs jumped by an average 18 per cent, education costs increased by an average 17 per cent and the amount of rent people paid increased by 17 per cent as insurance costs leapt by 20 per cent.

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Under the Gillard government, from the June quarter of 2010 to the September quarter of 2012, electricity prices soared by an average 41 per cent, gas prices increased by an average of 29 per cent and water and sewerage rates rose by an average 27 per cent. Health costs increased by an average 10 per cent, education costs rose by an average 12 per cent and the amount of rent people paid jumped by 10 per cent as insurance costs rose by 16 per cent.

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refute or accept.

[IQS.RLOW]

It's all Howard's fault and Tont Abbott is the debil

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TODAY marks a dismal anniversary in Australian history, it is the day on which the Gillard minority Labor-Independent-Green government equals the Rudd Labor government's total time in office - 935 days.

Given the propensity for this miserable government to attempt to redefine failures as successes, it is possible that some foolhardy Rudd-hating, Gillard-supporting staffer may even pop a bottle of champagne in the office tomorrow when the current prime minister exceeds Rudd's abruptly curtailed term.

Bile or not?

While the moment may be morbidly depressing for many, many Australians who would like the opportunity to vote for a party which can demonstrate a clear mandate to govern, it does mark an important milestone at which comparisons between the Rudd and Gillard government can conveniently be made.

Looking at the ledger, it is abundantly clear that a bad government was succeeded by an abysmal government. If anyone is in doubt the Rudd government was bad, just recall that Gillard told the public his government had lost its way.

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When Rudd attempted a comeback at the beginning of last year, his party colleagues queued to describe Kevvie from Brizzie as chaotic, unfit to be prime minister, a psychopath and responsible for sabotaging the 2010 election campaign.

The Opposition let Rudd off lightly by comparison. Economic management provides a black-and-red yardstick to measure the two government's performances. In its first year in government (2008-09) the Rudd government produced a $27 billion deficit; a $54.5 billion deficit in 2009-10 and a $47.5 billion deficit in 2010-11.

The Gillard government produced a $43.4 billion deficit in 2011-12 before collapsing in a heap and crab-walking away from the future surplus it has repeatedly promised. It was the third major promise to be broken by the Gillard government after it had reversed its pledge on no carbon tax and no Pacific Solution for offshore processing of illegal people-smuggler clients.

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Remember, too, that the Rudd government inherited a Treasury with a healthy surplus before it started its reckless spending spree which left Australia with $42.3 billion of net debt for 2009-10 and $84.6 billion of net debt for 2010-11.

The Gillard government (for factional reasons operating under the same hopeless Treasurer, Wayne Swan) then drove the nation further into the red by pushing our net debt up to $147 billion in 2011-12.

In the latest Budget update, net debt is estimated to fall to $144 billion by the end of the 2012-13 year, but the government's own monthly financial statements show that net debt continues to grow month by month because it is addicted to spending.

Five years ago, the Rudd government lifted the nation's credit card limit to $75 billion, increasing it again the following year to $200 billion. The Gillard government increased the country's credit limit to $250 billion in 2011 and again to $300 billion in 2012.

Swan, in the Rudd government, demonstrated poor economic management, but with the loss of some of the notional restraints applied by former Finance Minister Lindsay Tanner, showed himself to be a totally lousy manager under Gillard. To appear at all competent, Swan now resorts to pointing at failed Euro-economies, hoping the electorate will overlook the manner in which he has squandered national savings on worthless policies.

Another excellent and easily understood measure is provided by the flow of illegal people- smuggler clients. Again, Rudd started with near-empty processing centres as the Howard government had stopped the flow of boats. Under the Rudd government 140 boats arrived with 6,552 asylum seekers.

Under the Gillard government (which announced the "Malaysia solution" people swap which relied on a country that had not signed the UN Refugee Convention) 405 boats have arrived carrying 25,266 asylum seekers - more people than live in many sizeable towns - and there have been 1000 or more lives lost by those lured to try and breach the stretched border security net.

That number far exceeds the four lives lost during the bungled implementation of the Rudd government's ill-conceived $2.4 billion Home Insulation Plan which also saw the destruction of at least 224 houses, possibly the Rudd government's greatest policy failure.

Then there was the Rudd government's Building the Education Revolution, which inflicted school halls, many unwanted and unneeded, around the country at a cost of $1.7 billion and of course, the uncosted, unfunded not-bloody-needed National Broadband Network, created on the back of an envelope by the then prime minister, which now pays its CEO more than it gets from its customers (more on the NBN later).

As far as policy failures go, the Gillard government's carbon tax, which has helped deliver the largest quarterly rise in electricity prices since 1980, is hard to beat on so many fronts but then again there is its mining tax which last year collected no revenue.

Cost-of-living pressures under the Rudd government, from the December quarter of 2007 to the June quarter of 2010 saw electricity prices increased by an average of 34 per cent across Australia. Gas prices rose by an average of 26 per cent and water and sewerage rates increased by an average of 29 per cent.

Health costs jumped by an average 18 per cent, education costs increased by an average 17 per cent and the amount of rent people paid increased by 17 per cent as insurance costs leapt by 20 per cent.

Under the Gillard government, from the June quarter of 2010 to the September quarter of 2012, electricity prices soared by an average 41 per cent, gas prices increased by an average of 29 per cent and water and sewerage rates rose by an average 27 per cent. Health costs increased by an average 10 per cent, education costs rose by an average 12 per cent and the amount of rent people paid jumped by 10 per cent as insurance costs rose by 16 per cent.

An insight into the duplicity of both the Rudd and Gillard governments was provided on Friday. NBN announced it had exceeded its rollout target for 2012. This like so much of this government's utterances was sheer nonsense as the NBN's definition of rollout doesn't meet any international standard. All it means is planning has commenced in an office somewhere but does not reflect actual cable laid in any actual city, town or suburb. Ouch!

The truly disheartening fact on this bleak anniversary is that Gillard was a key member of the failed Rudd government and that she has not matched even its dismal record.

And blah blah blah. Bile or not?

Try reading it for a change.
Try working out what the facts are.
Then try not running away and instead factually refute them.
Now that'd be a change.

Or apologise for being clueless biased arseholes who are only here to flame and dissemble.

The problem with a toad like Akerman is that he is so enmeshed in his poison pen that you can't get past his foul little comments to see whether there's any truth in his opinion. If he didn't come across as the obnoxious and repugnant little man that he is - perhaps these so called facts would be more apparent.

He might have touched on a couple of facts, but his venomous writing deters you from caring.

I can see why you adore Piers - you're both very similar.

[IQS.RLOW]

You write worse things about Abbott and Howard.
At least Akerman doesn't lie like you do.

[Rorschach]

You are an idiot mantra. You missed the point from the beginning and still keep missing it.
Or do you just want to ignore it like Arsie?

I posted the facts especially for you. Even refutable ones.
I stated and have continuously here that in opinion pieces and articles written from people from both sides of the political divide you have facts...
If one can't digest articles and separate the facts from bias and read things and learn from both sides one is useless, and no amount of ignorance and emotive dribble will change that.

Address the bloody facts and accept them or refute them.

You can keep your emotive claptrap and subjective twittery, it is the facts that count and people who can't accept that or distinguish between the two and make logical sensible reasoned decisions shouldn't be allowed to vote.

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I can see why you adore Piers - you're both very similar.

BTW I don't adore Piers you lying waste of space.

In fact the odd occasions he's contacted me were because of stuff I wrote that contradicted and embarrassed him. One memorable occasion when he woke me up and started swearing at me over the phone.

So fcuk off mantra you know nothing twit.

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BTW I don't adore Piers you lying waste of space.

In fact the odd occasions he's contacted me were because of stuff I wrote that contradicted and embarrassed him. One memorable occasion when he woke me up and started swearing at me over the phone.

That must have given you a thrill.

So fcuk off mantra you know nothing twit.

I know that you and your little boy crushes on these fools are seriously pathetic. Grow up and try to control your mouth.

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Truth be known mantra... you've just proven you truly are a fcukwit.
I don't write personal crap about you and tell lies about you.
I just call you an idiot... you clearly have no idea about me or my life so bugger off I'm sick to death of correcting your public lies about me and your personal flames.

Funnily enough only 2 morons here make me even want to swear mantra, due to their lies and stupidity. Just shows how wrong an annoying you both are.

ps. Obviously I do have control otherwise I'd be spelling things rather differently.
pss. My mouth is fine. Try controlling what you write in future. I don't need to lie or make up stories about people.
psss. If you want to be addressed with respect show some yourself, if you don't want to be treated like an idiot stop acting like one.

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Do you think being called stupid and an idiot etc relentlessly isn't personal? It is extremely offensive. You are only here to undermine certain members who don't agree with you. You are the stalker here and if you're going to continue with the demeaning comments - you'll get them back.