Science; it can even redeem an environmental extremist

[Super Nova]

By your logic, we should try something new and potentially harmful simply because it's likely there are more harmful things out there.

No. My logic is:

Food is the storage of energy that originated (99% of the time) from the sun and is stored chemically by biological processes. When it is food we have processes to break this down for our own needs. Altering the DNA of organisms to improve their growth or resistence to harmful agents in the environment does nto fundamentally change what it it. It is food. The only exception would be if that food product produced a poison otherwise what's the difference. The only difference between controlled breeding and DNA engineered ajustments is that we can be price in the change and make changes that cannot occur in nature due to the limits of what can breed with what.

I eat fish. I eat wheat. If a gene from a fish was in wheat... would that really be a big issue for my body to handle.

Ok....I'll go smoke some cannabis, because there's worse stuff out there to be had, ie LSD.

Make sense?

Godo idea. Don't have too much of the strong stuff.

Environmental extremism -vrs- good old fashion common sense.

Extremism is never common sense based.

When in doubt, leave it out.

Pretty simple really.

No issue with that. I do the same.

I have no doubt that GM foods as they are today are save to all to consume.

[Super Nova]

Would you believe me if I told you that ...
1) Our children's who are breast feed contain trace amounts of this toxin because they are in the environment and the food the mother eats?

Really, is genetically modifying our ecosystem one more mistake we can afford to make?

My gut feeling tells me that once we start, even if we wanted to we wont be able to return to conventional (pre-GM) horticulture, bit like a butterfly effect.

This said, we need to be absolutely certain about what we're doing.

Mankind has already changed the environment.

There is no absolutes. There are risks and the need to be assessed and managed.

[Mattus]

I'm undecided, though I think some unbiased research wouldn't go astray.

The only way to make this happen is to write your local MP and tell them you prefer adequate government (not industry) funding for scientific research into sustainable foods over a budget surplus.

[mellie]

The fact that much of the research into GMO's has been conducted, and or sponsored by the companies wanting to cash in on the production of GMO's should tell you something.

Where's the independent research?



My views are rational, far from extreme. My approach cautious, neither extreme or irrational.
I am not saying they are good or bad, I just think we more time to do some much needed independent research into GMO's before we start wildly sowing our poats.

Poats--- = Oats genetically infused with the DNA of a pig.

Sound reasonable enough?

[mellie]

I'm undecided, though I think some unbiased research wouldn't go astray.

The only way to make this happen is to write your local MP and tell them you prefer adequate government (not industry) funding for scientific research into sustainable foods over a budget surplus.

Like that's going to happen.




Bottom line.... our politicians and the wealthy (who have shares in these company's) can afford a non-GMO organic diet, so why should Ingsoc care what the Proles ingest?

[Super Nova]

GM is good.

Bacon is good.

[IQS.RLOW]

Because companies are all out to introduce products that kill and maim because that's how they make money for their shareholders?

[Super Nova]

Bottom line.... our politicians and the wealthy (who have shares in these company's) can afford a non-GMO organic diet, so why should Ingsoc care what the Proles ingest?

I don't buy into this.

The wealthy aren't too worried about GM or not. They worry more about Free Range or not. The generics of the chicken is less important than how it has been fed.

[mellie]

Has it occurred to you why the Chinese are swooping on our infant formula here in Australia this and are flogging it for twice the price online (leaving shelves bare) this and are only interested in two particular brands of infant formula....
Karicare Aptamil Gold & Bellamys Organic?

Hint...


Hexane.

The above two formulas are the only ones made in either Australia and New Zealand that don't contain this toxin.

The Chinese already know about the Hexane, sadly, Aussie mums are a little slow to catch on it seems.

[Super Nova]

Because companies are all out to introduce products that kill and maim because that's how they make money for their shareholders?

Mel,

Funded research is important for the companies. I am pleased they do R&D. They need to R to do the D.

When they publish their non-independant research they are open to the process of scutiny that the scietific community provides. Bullshit science will not last long once it is out in the open.