Should voting be compulsory?

[Outlaw Yogi]

but then misrepresentation is a common ploy of yours.

Easy to allege Rambo.....less easy to prove.......but that is a common ploy of yours.

You did not respond to this:

When you were a fully fledged active influential Member of the Greens in Bundaberg, did you not vote for them?

Any reason, Rambo?

No easy to prove. You impersonated others, including myself. You also make absurd allegations that others have said or done things they never did or know nothing about. In fact you get caught out scheming so regularly, most here don't just doubt your integrity but your intelligence as well.
You profess to be a lawyer who owns or runs [or both] a cab Co, yet seems to invest their entire life's free time manipulating the discourse of this site.

Of course I voted green when in the greens, gotta go, shop shutting .. night

[Aussie]

No easy to prove. You impersonated others, including myself.

I have never impersonated you. Lying too now, Rambo?

You also make absurd allegations that others have said or done things they never did or know nothing about.

Let's see some evidence Rambo.....not just your rubbish.

In fact you get caught out scheming so regularly,

Is that so. If it is so regular, you will have no problem posting the evidence.

You profess to be a lawyer who owns or runs [or both] a cab Co,

Yikes.....I did that did I. Nope, I have never 'professed' that.

yet seems to invest their entire life's free time manipulating the discourse of this site.

Really? I have my say as I am entitled to. You got a problem with that, Rambo?

Of course I voted green when in the greens, gotta go, shop shutting .. night

Now we get to what I was getting at:

How convenient. When you get the time, perhaps you can explain how you managed to do that when for years, you have been telling us you have never been on the Electoral Rolls.

[IQS.RLOW]

You can see how much it threatens the leftwing side of politics with both Gillard and Swan whining about a state discussion paper.

Do they think they can only get the votes of people they force to the ballot box? If you listened to these idiots, they are once again spinning lies to make it seem that people are being physically restrained from voting

Wahhhh no one will vote for us unless they are forced to...

[Outlaw Yogi]

So, you demur from the capacity of Government to require something of you, yet, if I have been reading you correctly for years, you have no hesitation taking social payments from that same Government.

Nice one, Rambo.

Well actually I do have a problem taking welfare, because taking their money gives them authority to tell me what to do, but accepting welfare for 26 weeks is a prerequisit for claiming one's superannuation early. Superannuation I never agreed with being taken from my earnings in the first place.
When I lost my job in early 2010, I waited four months before applying, so had nothing for five months. That's why I sold my chainsaw, metal detector, radio scanner, ect and lived off the bush via feral fruits and wild animals.
Then I quit the dole when I had a winfall, went feral again, became a scrap merchant's offsider for a bit, discovered I had money in a super account so applied for the dole to get the super four to five months later.

No easy to prove. You impersonated others, including myself.

I have never impersonated you. Lying too now, Rambo?

Yes you have you compulsive liar, both here as 'Yogi' and as Outlaw Yogi at DT's site, and made out someone else had.
I have no reason to lie, about this or any other matter.
I won't say that I don't lie, because on occasion I do, but not for myself, and only to prevent dramas. If someone askes me to lie for them, I want to know why, and if their reason/excuse isn't good enough I won't.

You on the other hand seem to routinely lie as a matter course, and over the most petty things too. Most heroin junkies don't lie as much as you.

You also make absurd allegations that others have said or done things they never did or know nothing about.

Let's see some evidence Rambo.....not just your rubbish.

In fact you get caught out scheming so regularly,

Is that so. If it is so regular, you will have no problem posting the evidence.

You profess to be a lawyer who owns or runs [or both] a cab Co,

Yikes.....I did that did I. Nope, I have never 'professed' that.

yet seems to invest their entire life's free time manipulating the discourse of this site.

Really? I have my say as I am entitled to. You got a problem with that, Rambo?

Of course I voted green when in the greens, gotta go, shop shutting .. night

Now we get to what I was getting at:

How convenient. When you get the time, perhaps you can explain how you managed to do that when for years, you have been telling us you have never been on the Electoral Rolls.

Evidence evidence evidence. Well plenty of us have posted copious amounts of evidence and proof. Which you just deny and obfuscate over ad infintium til the debate skews off on your personal disingenuous wanky distractions.
I could trawl through pages and pages of material gathering evidence, but it's a time wasting exercise and you're not worth the effort. Coz you're a phukwit!

Anyway getting back to the thread topic. My position on the matter can be summed up with the first line of my first comment ...

If there was someone I thought worth supporting I'd enroll and vote for them, but I don't, so won't.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Of course I voted green when in the greens, gotta go, shop shutting .. night

Now we get to what I was getting at:

How convenient. When you get the time, perhaps you can explain how you managed to do that when for years, you have been telling us you have never been on the Electoral Rolls.

But that's just it, I haver never said I have never been on the electoral roll and you know it.
I suggest you trawl back and find what I did say, phukwit. But then really, this is just another example of you misrepresenting another. Like I said, a common ploy of yours.

[Aussie]

For as long as I can remember, you have been saying you have not been on the Roll. Check the Member data here, Rambo.....you will see that someone registered here as Yogi well before you ceased calling yourself Hoppy. I would not know about what whatever you say happened at DT''s joint.

[Black Orchid]

I would not know about what whatever you say happened at DT''s joint.

Why not? You were there often enough

[Neferti]

For as long as I can remember, you have been saying you have not been on the Roll. Check the Member data here, Rambo.....you will see that someone registered here as Yogi well before you ceased calling yourself Hoppy. I would not know about what whatever you say happened at DT''s joint.

It is pretty easy to be left off the Roll. Electoral Office fault. I went along to vote and I wasn't on the Roll. Fine. Didn't vote. For years. Moved Interstate and got door knocked so added myself to the Rolls, again. Voted at a couple of Elections and turned up and I was not on the Rolls, again. Even though I was still living at the same address. So didn't vote. Last few Elections I've turned up and have been on the Rolls. If they can't find your name on the Rolls, they can't cross you off, so no $20 fine. I could have made a scene and filled out many forms but I didn't. I just walked out.

I read, somewhere, that our "founding fathers" (not an Aussie term, but you know what I mean), decided to have "compulsory" voting/roll registration on your "majority" was due to what happened in the UK .... the Labour Party over there missed out on votes because the people couldn't be bothered turning up. I would suggest that IF we stopped the compulsory registration/voting here, only people who were really interested would turn up .... say, maybe, 50% of the population.

In any case, why do you think the fine for not having your name crossed off the Roll is only $20? Apathy is worth a lot more than that, I would have thought.

[wog_girl]

What would happen if I did not turn up to vote? Is it just the $20 fine? If so, then I ain't voting.

[mellie]

What would happen if I did not turn up to vote? Is it just the $20 fine? If so, then I ain't voting.

What happens if I do not vote?
Initially the Australian Electoral Commission will write to all apparent non-voters requesting that they either provide a reason for their failure to vote or pay a $20 penalty.

If, within 21 days, the apparent non-voter fails to reply, cannot provide a valid and sufficient reason or declines to pay the penalty, then prosecution proceedings may be instigated. If the matter is dealt with in court and the person is found guilty, he or she may be fined up to $50 plus court costs.

http://www.aec.gov.au/faqs/voting_austr ... m#not-vote