Should voting be compulsory?

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Should voting be compulsory?

Post by mellie » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:44 pm

Should we as a nation change our compulsory laws and move in line with so many other countries? Would this encourage more active engagement with politics or increase levels of apathy to a point of non-involvement? Would you change your current voting habits if voting were to become voluntary in Australia? Let us know what you think via our comment section, on our Facebook page or on Twitter.

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I think it would increase already apathetic levels to what I can only describe as our being in a politically induced coma.

Australians need to participate in politics, one way or the other, and if they choose not to vote, they may do this by way of simply not ticking the boxes on their ballot forms.

But to give people the option of copping out simply because they would rather sleep off a hangover, or because they simply cant be bothered renders the whole concept of voting even less important, relevant than some already believe it is.

Some might argue that those who cant be bothered voting probably shouldn't be voting anyway, though I think as with so many young people, taking an interest in politics, this and exercising your constitutional rights is something that comes with maturity and should be encouraged from the start, and by keeping voting compulsory hits this message home hard, because they will be fined if they don't show up.

A number of countries are quite blasé about voting and the consequences speak for themselves.
We don't need to see the same radical policies in Scotland being passed here in Australia on the “mandate” of a majority party that has won overt support from less than 25% of it's people.

http://www.4liberty.org.uk/2011/05/07/w ... ry-voting/


:roll We need to keep it real, and keep voting compulsory or risk the same thing happening here in Australia.

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Re: Should voting be compulsory?

Post by therealmiranda » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:56 pm

I am a 100% believer in compulsory voting - I also believe that a person has the right once in the polling booth to submit a blank form if they believe this reflects their views but it means they have consciously made the decision not to vote for one of the candidates.

I think voters also need to be more aware of preference deals between politicians and if this will impact on their decision to vote above or below the line.

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Re: Should voting be compulsory?

Post by mellie » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:14 pm

I think voters also need to be more aware of preference deals between politicians and if this will impact on their decision to vote above or below the line.
Absolutely!!!

I think preference deals should be more transparent, thus I'd like to see preference deals simplified and colour coded with symbols on our ballot forms.

for example...


Greens- a green triangle
Liberals- a Blue square
Labor - a red circle

Next to the names of candidates so voters can see what they are really voting for.
Ie, if a majority of Greens preferences are going towards Labor, there should be the corresponding symbol next to their Green candidates name. Likewise with the smaller party's candidates who also syphon/sell preferences off to larger partys.



We have symbols for other aspects of politics and governance, ie, foreign trade, why not our electoral system also?

http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/electoral_system.html

therealmiranda

Re: Should voting be compulsory?

Post by therealmiranda » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:20 pm

I think that would be a great idea! I generally do vote below the line so I know how my preferences end up but I understand that can be time consuming so I think this would be a great idea to make it easier for voters to be more informed of where their vote ended up.

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Re: Should voting be compulsory?

Post by IQS.RLOW » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:25 pm

I tend to think compulsory voting only empowers the stupid to cast a stupid vote, be that a donkey vote or vote for one of the looney parties (eg Greens)

A switched on and engaged voter base will get better results from elected officials with less compromise caused by the stupid vote
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Re: Should voting be compulsory?

Post by mellie » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:34 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:I tend to think compulsory voting only empowers the stupid to cast a stupid vote, be that a donkey vote or vote for one of the looney parties (eg Greens)

A switched on and engaged voter base will get better results from elected officials with less compromise caused by the stupid vote
I have delved into both sides of the argument IQ's, and whilst I understand where you're coming from, the consequences far outweigh the benefits when in comes to voluntary voting.

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Re: Should voting be compulsory?

Post by mellie » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:39 pm

therealmiranda wrote:I think that would be a great idea! I generally do vote below the line so I know how my preferences end up but I understand that can be time consuming so I think this would be a great idea to make it easier for voters to be more informed of where their vote ended up.

Like you, I make it my business to know exactly where our preferences are going, though not everyone has the desire or resources to do this.

I don't like our chances of having this implemented however,(the symbols I mean) given we'd have a fair whack of opposition coming from both sides of politics.

.... Because apparently, ignorance is bliss.

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Re: Should voting be compulsory?

Post by therealmiranda » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:41 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:I tend to think compulsory voting only empowers the stupid to cast a stupid vote, be that a donkey vote or vote for one of the looney parties (eg Greens)

A switched on and engaged voter base will get better results from elected officials with less compromise caused by the stupid vote
I think you'll find that it's just your opinion that the Greens are a loony party and I don't think people vote for the greens to be funny - they'd rather go with the sex party.

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Re: Should voting be compulsory?

Post by Rorschach » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:59 pm

therealmiranda wrote:I am a 100% believer in compulsory voting - I also believe that a person has the right once in the polling booth to submit a blank form if they believe this reflects their views but it means they have consciously made the decision not to vote for one of the candidates.

I think voters also need to be more aware of preference deals between politicians and if this will impact on their decision to vote above or below the line.

Hmmm... multiples of the one topic.
Miranda that isn't voting. Compulsory or otherwise.
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Re: Should voting be compulsory?

Post by therealmiranda » Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:01 pm

It's the same as chosing not to vote if voting were voluntary and at least they have gone and thought about it.
While I can see the benefit of voluntary voting I think it could cause many problems especially to marginalised groups.

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