Greens go after the disaffected ALP vote

[Rorschach]

Sane people don't stay with one party or bounce from party to party... they vote for sensible policies.

[IQS.RLOW]

Sane people don't stay with one party or bounce from party to party... they vote for sensible policies.

Actually, sane people stay with the party that is most likely to enact the policies that you favour...would you trust your vote to the ALP for the promise of a surplus or no carbon tax?

[Rorschach]

That's not how I vote... I vote on policy not party

I understand your point of view, just disagree with it.
Obviously mantra votes Green for the same reason and Monk votes ALP for the same reason.

[IQS.RLOW]

I can understand wanting to vote for policy rather than party platforms, but when you have the ALP coming out in 2007 declaring they are 'fiscal conservatives' and here we are 5 years later and nearly $250Bn in the hole.

Then you have the Greens just over the last few days declaring that they aren't really fucking psychos with no clue...

If a policy is worth enacting and makes sense, then take it to your preferred party rather than wait for some obscurity to make a promise it cannot deliver

[mantra]

Support for the Greens plummeted a bit when Bobby Brown retired and Milne and Hanson-Young are not very popular, even among many Greens voters. It's hilarious that Labor MPs openly shit on the Greens yet bow down and kiss their feet come election time. Liberals try it too, of course. I really can't see the Greens achieving the same result they did at the last election, if the recent ACT election is any indication. Bandt will probably get re-elected but will not have any influence.

Yes unfortunately support for the Greens did decline quite rapidly when Brown retired, but he had ensured the party had a solid base which hopefully will withstand his absence. I also doubt the Greens will do as well at the next election as they did at the last, but they will not be obliterated as the doomsday theorists predict. We need a third party and I'm confident that they will do better than expected.

[IQS.RLOW]

They've already dumped their policies in fear of being anialiated. How will their now non-extremist position sit with the 10% of idiots that vote for them because they are extremist wackos?

[Rorschach]

I can understand wanting to vote for policy rather than party platforms, but when you have the ALP coming out in 2007 declaring they are 'fiscal conservatives' and here we are 5 years later and nearly $250Bn in the hole.

Then you have the Greens just over the last few days declaring that they aren't really fucking psychos with no clue...

If a policy is worth enacting and makes sense, then take it to your preferred party rather than wait for some obscurity to make a promise it cannot deliver

Well knowing Rudd as well as I do I didn't vote for him or his party, nor their policies, and I didn't vote for Workchoices either.

Policy-wise... Interesting idea... how do you suppose it would work?

[IQS.RLOW]

It doesn't, hence the reason why I vote on party even if I don't agree on all policies because in general, the conservative party represents a far more logical framework for moving the country forward while not pissing money up against the wall.

[Rorschach]

You're right... it doesn't work.
Even in a new party it can take years to get in a position of influence.

The Dems used to have a good idea for policy development. But then again, getting it accepted by the people at the top is still a problem. Most parties are fire-walled one way or another and vested interests are there protecting their own little political empires. Labor has the added interest of Unions and factions.

It's an interesting move by The Greens to make themselves look harmless... I'm hoping no one really falls for it.

[mellie]

It doesn't, hence the reason why I vote on party even if I don't agree on all policies because in general, the conservative party represents a far more logical framework for moving the country forward while not pissing money up against the wall.

I consider myself to be a centrist conservative, this and will be voting for Tony Abbott next election.
But this isn't to say I will vote for him the next election after that because I expect a degree of voter satisfaction this and wont vote for someone or a party purely because I have in the past.

Things change, people change, and party's are of no exception.
If for instance, Malcolm Turnbull assumed the Liberal leadership, then proceeded to boot-out Abbotts line-up and fill his cabinet with his own preferred ministers, I'm sorry, but I would have to find some other party/individual to vote for.

He's treacherous and self interested. Is not a true Liberal loyalist.

You are a tribal voter IQ's, this and would vote Liberal if they set fire to your dog, Whereas, I'm a little more discerning, this and more critical of politicians in general I think, this and whilst I may offer a given candidate my full support, this isn't to say I'm prepared to back them on bad policy or vote for them indefinitely should they make too many mistakes.

I like Tony Abbott, he seems to be a genuine bloke who is family orientated.
He seems to value the same things I do, this and he strikes me as being an unusually honest politician...albeit a little clumsy at times with his PR.
He has his faults, but on the whole, I like his ethic.

As for the Greens losing Bob Brown...well, it's debatable as to whether or not one can lose what they never really had to begin with. Bob Brown, surrounded by his gaggle of Marxist, self-loathing eco-fascists was a another traitor, an internationalist who was more concerned with the global greens movement than anything else, as can be demonstrated by his interest in Rwanda.

He's just a UN meat Muppet. He even has the cavity for his UN puppeteers to fist.