Is Multiculturalism a failure?

[Rorschach]

I hope it is one of your female relatives that is gang raped by these sandnigga cuntstains...

You trying to say we shouldn't allow Indians in here too... ok.

[Rorschach]

There are plenty of people in Australia 'incompatible' with our Society. Our prisons are full of them! They are mostly Australian born non Muslims and/or Aboriginals.

So.....an error was made.....or something was taken out of context......and tunnel vision bigotted fuckwits like you jumped all over it, and the Mosque proved just how bloody stupid you are.

Why did you leave Debate & Relate? They love Muslim bashing over there.

Right first off every country has criminals moron and believe it or not most of them belong to that country.
In our country we have certain ethnic groups that are over-represented in our penal system. We have crime squads named after them because they identify by ethnicity. Why is it that more criminals convert to Islam in prison than any other religion?

Well firstly I'm not a bigoted fuckwit. For your information I have many friends of different races. I didn't jump all over anything... I don't call for fatwas on other people races or religions.

You are obviously ignorant of the situation in Australia. I gather since you brag about your legal prowess you are aware of those would be terrorists in gaol now and what religion they represent. I gather you are ignorant of years and years of online and media related racism and ridicule aimed at the greater Australian population by known and supported Islamic groups. One such group the Islamic Youth movement... which for years produced material translated and vetted by Keysar Trad and the Australian "meat" loving Hilali. Would it surprise you that you were described by them as sewage that the purity of Islam and Muslims was as a pure spring and the Kaffir (the rest of us) was the base filth of sewage? Well now you know. This was a "mainstream" Youth group with "high profile" "mainstream" officials of the Australian Muslim community. Once this was discovered the words disappeared and the groups went underground only to be replaced at a later date by another. mind you this sort of stuffn was up on their website for years, but the mainstream media didn't know about it or chose to not report on it. Mind you, people at the time were being intimidated and vilified by labor as racists, for pointing out such things. look at Jones who today has had to apologise, yet Trad, who owes many more people an apology goes free and gets rewarded.

[Aussie]

Right first off every country has criminals moron and believe it or not most of them belong to that country.

Yes, that is what I said. They are 'incompatible' with our Society. Where shall we send them? Back to the UK?

In our country we have certain ethnic groups that are over-represented in our penal system.

Leaving aside indigenous groups......I have asked you previously to produce the evidence, and you failed to do so. So, I guess we put that one down as non fact, and just your opinion.

Why is it that more criminals convert to Islam in prison than any other religion?

I have no idea if they do, and I have less of an idea as to why, if they do. Care to give us your shitty opinion?

Well firstly I'm not a bigoted fuckwit.

Sure....in your opinion. Is it okay if I don't share it.....or must I bow to yours?

For your information I have many friends of different races.

Are we now talking about 'races,' or Muslims? How many Muslims call you 'friend?'

You are obviously ignorant of the situation in Australia.

Just asking is all. Is that your opinion, or fact?

I gather since you brag about your legal prowess......

If you find even one post made by me where 'I brag about my legal prowess,' I will donate $1,000.00 to any charity you nominate. You have until Mid-Night 31st December, 2012. If you fail to do so, you will donate that exact amount to a charity I nominate. Is that a deal?

you are aware of those would be terrorists in gaol now and what religion they represent.

No, I am not. Neither are you. But that does not prevent you, as a bigotted fuckwit, referring to people as 'would be terrorists,' and implying that they are Muslim, does it.

I gather you are ignorant of years and years of online and media related racism and ridicule aimed at the greater Australian population by known and supported Islamic groups. One such group the Islamic Youth movement... which for years produced material translated and vetted by Keysar Trad and the Australian "meat" loving Hilali. Would it surprise you that you were described by them as sewage that the purity of Islam and Muslims was as a pure spring and the Kaffir (the rest of us) was the base filth of sewage? Well now you know. This was a "mainstream" Youth group with "high profile" "mainstream" officials of the Australian Muslim community. Once this was discovered the words disappeared and the groups went underground only to be replaced at a later date by another. mind you this sort of stuffn was up on their website for years, but the mainstream media didn't know about it or chose to not report on it. Mind you, people at the time were being intimidated and vilified by labor as racists, for pointing out such things. look at Jones who today has had to apologise, yet Trad, who owes many more people an apology goes free and gets rewarded.

'They' have their rabid fanatic fuckwits, just like we have you.



You did not answer this Roach:

Why did you leave Debate & Relate? They love Muslim bashing over there.

[Rorschach]

Right first off every country has criminals moron and believe it or not most of them belong to that country.

Yes, that is what I said. They are 'incompatible' with our Society. Where shall we send them? Back to the UK?

Moronic statement number 1... STRIKE 1
Every society has it's own criminals, there is no reason to import them. Your stupidity and anglophobia is showing.

In our country we have certain ethnic groups that are over-represented in our penal system.

Leaving aside indigenous groups......I have asked you previously to produce the evidence, and you failed to do so. So, I guess we put that one down as non fact, and just your opinion.

Moronic statement number 2... STRIKE 2
A few years ago you could look it up. just because I 1/ don't have the time and 2/ Am not sure if or where the information is now does not mean it is not a fact. Oh wait, I actually did post some info on it which did show certain groups were overrepresented... you need to go back and find it.

Why is it that more criminals convert to Islam in prison than any other religion?

I have no idea if they do, and I have less of an idea as to why, if they do. Care to give us your shitty opinion?
I have no idea. I leave the shitty opinion and potty mouth stuff to you.

Well firstly I'm not a bigoted fuckwit.

Sure....in your opinion. Is it okay if I don't share it.....or must I bow to yours?

I don't care but I suggest you don't libel or lie about me, it only makes you a bigger idiot than I already think.

For your information I have many friends of different races.

Are we now talking about 'races,' or Muslims? How many Muslims call you 'friend?'

You were the one who called me a racist remember... How many Muslim friends do I have or have I ever had? Hmmm, now let me do some quick math... about 20 (on speaking terms), one was arrested for threatening some embassies in Canberra. How about you?

You are obviously ignorant of the situation in Australia.

Just asking is all. Is that your opinion, or fact?

I'm sorry did you confuse yourself...?

I gather since you brag about your legal prowess......

If you find even one post made by me where 'I brag about my legal prowess,' I will donate $1,000.00 to any charity you nominate. You have until Mid-Night 31st December, 2012. If you fail to do so, you will donate that exact amount to a charity I nominate. Is that a deal? Well obviously you are unaware or dishonest about how you come across to other people. If I get Nef to agree with me will you pay us $500 each?

you are aware of those would be terrorists in gaol now and what religion they represent.

No, I am not. Neither are you. But that does not prevent you, as a bigotted fuckwit, referring to people as 'would be terrorists,' and implying that they are Muslim, does it.

Moronic statement number3... STRIKE 3 YOU ARE OUT!!!!! I suggest you get onto google right now before you make a bigger idiot of yourself and look them up.

I gather you are ignorant of years and years of online and media related racism and ridicule aimed at the greater Australian population by known and supported Islamic groups. One such group the Islamic Youth movement... which for years produced material translated and vetted by Keysar Trad and the Australian "meat" loving Hilali. Would it surprise you that you were described by them as sewage that the purity of Islam and Muslims was as a pure spring and the Kaffir (the rest of us) was the base filth of sewage? Well now you know. This was a "mainstream" Youth group with "high profile" "mainstream" officials of the Australian Muslim community. Once this was discovered the words disappeared and the groups went underground only to be replaced at a later date by another. mind you this sort of stuffn was up on their website for years, but the mainstream media didn't know about it or chose to not report on it. Mind you, people at the time were being intimidated and vilified by labor as racists, for pointing out such things. look at Jones who today has had to apologise, yet Trad, who owes many more people an apology goes free and gets rewarded.

'They' have their rabid fanatic fuckwits, just like we have you.

Moronic statement Number 4 YOU"RE ALREADY OUT>>> these people are/were supposed to be moderates you moron, they live in enclaves within out society and preach hatred against us... you apparently don't care... about anything. The fact you failed to address the FACTS in the last paragraph show just how far in denial you are and how ignorant you are. You just posted a link about Jones yet fail to acknowledge that Trad has done worse and is protected by USEFUL IDIOTS LIKE YOUSELF.

So much for your new rules and higher morals... fuckwit

[IQS.RLOW]

Aussie is a grovelling white ant useful idiot apologist

[Aussie]

Aussie is a grovelling white ant useful idiot apologist

At least that makes more sense than the black and red confusion produced by Roach. Did he answer this, NOIQ:

....(Roach)......Why did you leave Debate & Relate? They love Muslim bashing over there.

[Rorschach]

Stee-rike 5

I answer questions relevant to the topic.
I don't have to answer everything you ask not relevant to the topic as well.

BTW I'm permanently banned.

[IQS.RLOW]

Aussie is a grovelling white ant useful idiot apologist

At least that makes more sense than the black and red confusion produced by Roach. Did he answer this, NOIQ:

....(Roach)......Why did you leave Debate & Relate? They love Muslim bashing over there.

No one has to answer any question you put to them considering how you turn with tucked tail so often

[Rorschach]

Lets ask the young and naive... wait, make sure they are Muslim and female too oh and a token PC award winner to boot.


You gotta laugh, they ask about race then they target Islam.

How racist are we?
December 27, 2012 - 7:18AM
Yassmin Abdel-Magied

In 2005, when news of the Cronulla riots spread, my family was inundated by calls from friends and family overseas asking if we were okay.

"We're fine!" we would say. "Queensland's different".

That's how I'd always seen it. Growing up in Brisbane in the 90s and 00s, I remember associating racially motivated violence with Sydney and Melbourne.

Although there were incidents in Queensland, it was never as common or visible. Even after 9/11, although our mosque was burnt down and there were incidents of racism, the community didn't experience the widespread and intense incidents of racial hatred as exhibited at the Cronulla riots or more recently, the attacks against Indian international students.

So why is Queensland different? Do the numbers support my anecdotal evidence? Are we more cohesive, or is it a case of luck and "it just hasn't happened yet"?

According to census data, New South Wales and Victoria have an over-representation of LOTE (Language Other Than English Spoken at Home) population, with Sydney and Melbourne's LOTE population at 37.8% and 33.7%, compared to Brisbane's 17.9% (ABS, 2011). Bingo!!!

It is quite clear then, that the ethnic population density in Queensland is significantly less than those in the southern states, perhaps a reason for less racial violence.

Furthermore, the southern capital cities have more densely populated areas with particular groups of migrants that have been settled for longer, whereas Brisbane and Queensland's migrant populations are younger and less dense. In 1996, Queensland had 29.7 % fewer LOTE speakers compared to NSW (ABS, 1996).

On the other hand, the Scanlon Foundation's "Mapping Social Cohesion" (2012) report states that Queenslanders are particularly likely to hold negative views on cultural diversity.

Numbers may not always tell the whole story. As a lifetime Brisbanite, I don't think we have a widespread issue with racial violence as we are a little different to our southern neighbours.

Firstly, the settlement of racially diverse populations hasn't been in the dense concentrations of lengthy settlement as seen down south. This has allowed ethnically diverse populations to better embed themselves into the fabric of the mainstream community. They could do the same down here but prefer to live in enclaves and keep themselves separate.

With that familiarity comes understanding and the reduction of the likelihood of racial violence. yet islam is not a race.

Secondly, as a society, we are now much more aware the needs of migrants and LOTE populations having learned from Sydney and Melbourne. Crap. As populations now settle in Queensland, the many support mechanisms available from government and organisations help alleviate many of the issues based around settlement that may provoke violence. the same mechanisms are in place south of the Qld border.

When my family moved to Australia almost 20 years ago, the level of support was essentially non-existent. Now, there are extensive networks to help, and the positive impact this has cannot be understated.

However, it cannot be denied that there are negative - dare I say racist - views around the state. We've been lucky so far. I feel safe, accepted and don't find my race a major inhibitor in my ability to participate. Does she think of islam as a race? Do Muslims think of themselves apart from all others?

We shouldn't be complacent however, and as we become more racially diverse we must work together to ensure that our community isn't marred by the manifestation of negative views and the racially motivated violence that can truly damage the fabric of our society. then integrate and assimilate...

* Yassmin Abdul-Magied, 21, this year won the women of influence "Young Leader" award for forming Youth Without Borders.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nationa ... z2GCuPBU8h" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[mellie]

Is multiculturalism a failure?

Last week I learned that a friend of mines gifted son turned down a placement in Sydney's best performing 'Selective' High school, James Ruse Agricultural High, on the basis of him not wanting to feel like an outcast, a minority, different to all the other kids in his class, ...aka the only white Australian kid there.

At first I though, what a racist little prick, why on earth would you knock back a spot at this amazing school because you were worried about being a minority....then I took a look at this schools website and realised that not only would he have been a minority, he would have probably been the only white Australian kid there.

So what I hear you say?

Take a look at their website banner and the photographs of their students.
If you were a white Australian kid would you feel comfortable attending this school?

http://www.jamesruse.nsw.edu.au/


Is Multiculturalism a failure?

Only if you happen to be a white minority within a multicultural majority.



Do you think he made the right decision?