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Re: Ashby

Post by Rorschach » Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:30 am

How else does a Judge make a decision without a jury? He has to add up the circumstantial evidence and make a judgment. It's too bad if you think it's wrong. That is only your opinion - not a fact.
that's right mantra it is my opinion. My opinion may just be right. The judgement is just an opinion and may just be wrong. My problem with the judgement is that Rares makes a lot of assumptions about what people were thinking and their motivation. That is mind reader stuff, not evidential. have you read the judgement? Or did you just want to have a shot at me as per usual? :rofl
If Mal Brough is brought to account - which he should have been, after he lost his seat and allegedly exploited aborigines with his connection to the mining corporations, it will reinforce the Judge's verdict. Brough is more slippery than Slipper.
You are clueless and you bias is showing in spades yet again.
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Re: Ashby

Post by mantra » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:22 pm

R wrote:My problem with the judgement is that Rares makes a lot of assumptions about what people were thinking and their motivation.
I read the judgment. It is his profession to assess and determine people's motivations. That's what he gets paid his exorbitant salary for. If you aren't happy with the way Rares has formulated his pronouncement - then convince Abbott, Brough and Ashby that they should appeal his decision.

They won't because they know someone will dig deeper and possibly find more incriminating evidence which could lead back to Abbott.

Best to leave well enough alone. The Coalition escaped lightly - this time.

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Re: Ashby

Post by Rorschach » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:59 pm

No it is his job to judge the evidence.

Not to create politcal fairy stories and have them colour his judgement.

Best to leave things alone because of the cost more than anything else. The Coalition haven't escaped anything you loopy ratbag. Roxon has had as much if not more influence in this than Brough.
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Re: Ashby

Post by mantra » Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:26 pm

Rorschach wrote:No it is his job to judge the evidence.

Not to create politcal fairy stories and have them colour his judgement.

Best to leave things alone because of the cost more than anything else. The Coalition haven't escaped anything you loopy ratbag. Roxon has had as much if not more influence in this than Brough.
You were obviously bullied as a kid, but instead of learning from it - you've turned into an ignorant one. It's no surprise you were stabbed at school with a compass.

Everyone who disagrees with you is insane - even a Judge.

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Re: Ashby

Post by Rorschach » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:02 pm

Honestly mantra I am so over all your hissy fits and this passive/aggressive shit you go on with.

Build a sandcastle instead of strawmen and leave forums to grown-ups.

ps. I never said the judge was insane, I never said anyone was insane. That's just another of your many lies. Most of which lately seem to be about me or what I say and think. Judges have been known to be wrong mantra. Now go away.
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Re: Ashby

Post by Aussie » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:38 pm

Rorschach wrote:No it is his job to judge the evidence.
There was no evidence, only pleadings and their content.
Not to create politcal fairy stories and have them colour his judgement.
Please quote from the Judgement to demonstrate where he created 'political fairy stories.....' and also please demonstrate how his 'judgement was coloured.'
Best to leave things alone because of the cost more than anything else. The Coalition haven't escaped anything you loopy ratbag. Roxon has had as much if not more influence in this than Brough.
Please clarify.

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Re: Ashby

Post by mantra » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:59 pm

Rorschach wrote:Honestly mantra I am so over all your hissy fits and this passive/aggressive shit you go on with.

Build a sandcastle instead of strawmen and leave forums to grown-ups.

ps. I never said the judge was insane, I never said anyone was insane. That's just another of your many lies. Most of which lately seem to be about me or what I say and think. Judges have been known to be wrong mantra. Now go away.
Out of the blue you abused me. Start behaving like a civilised adult and you'll get a little respect in return. I think Lisa is probably your sock? You two are eerily similar.

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Re: Ashby

Post by Rorschach » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:03 pm

Aussie wrote:
Rorschach wrote:No it is his job to judge the evidence.
There was no evidence, only pleadings and their content.
Not to create politcal fairy stories and have them colour his judgement.
Please quote from the Judgement to demonstrate where he created 'political fairy stories.....' and also please demonstrate how his 'judgement was coloured.'
Best to leave things alone because of the cost more than anything else. The Coalition haven't escaped anything you loopy ratbag. Roxon has had as much if not more influence in this than Brough.
Please clarify.

Addressed you already... waiting for you to come up with the goods...
Hard to work out the truth without evidence isn't it?
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Re: Ashby

Post by Rorschach » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:05 pm

mantra wrote:
Rorschach wrote:Honestly mantra I am so over all your hissy fits and this passive/aggressive shit you go on with.

Build a sandcastle instead of strawmen and leave forums to grown-ups.

ps. I never said the judge was insane, I never said anyone was insane. That's just another of your many lies. Most of which lately seem to be about me or what I say and think. Judges have been known to be wrong mantra. Now go away.
Out of the blue you abused me. Start behaving like a civilised adult and you'll get a little respect in return. I think Lisa is probably your sock? You two are eerily similar.
look to your own behaviour mantra and you might not be proved wrong or flamed back.
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Re: Ashby

Post by Aussie » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:12 pm

Hard to work out the truth without evidence isn't it?
You cannot have read the Judgement. Would you like me to link it again?

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