CANdo/Tea Party wannabies?

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CANdo/Tea Party wannabies?

Post by Rorschach » Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:16 pm

'Tea Party' to whip up a political storm
* by: LINDA SILMALIS CHIEF REPORTER
* From: The Sunday Telegraph
* December 16, 2012 12:00AM

A PROUDLY conservative group that wants to be the "Australian Tea Party" will push for corporal punishment, referendums to sack bad governments and tougher refugee policy at the federal election.

CANdo, a group created by Liberal firebrand Cory Bernardi and loosely modelled on the right-wing faction of the US Republican Party, also claims gay marriage could lead to Muslim polygamy.

CANdo is run by chairman David Flint, former Australian Broadcasting Authority chair and leading monarchist, and Jai Martinkovits, who also runs Australians for a Constitutional Monarchy.

Professor Flint said CANdo wants a referendum on gay marriage and defended Senator Bernardi over recent comments suggesting it might lead to bestiality.

"All he was saying was that if you open up marriage to a wider group, then there will be calls for more," Prof Flint said. "Perhaps that would be the next cab off the rank," he said.

"Muslim people are allowed polygamous marriage, but there will no doubt be calls for recognition, such as through the welfare system."

While unaligned to any political party and reliant on private donations, the group will back election candidates aligned with its causes.

Broadcaster Alan Jones and businessman Hugh Morgan are patrons of CANdo, which wants controversial ex-2UE host Michael Smith appointed managing director of the ABC, and the creation of grand juries to investigate alleged MP misconduct.

Prof Flint said it also wanted to protect the legal right for citizens to offend each other without fear of legal action.

"I've been called a perma-tanned Indonesian-born blow-in. Some people might find that offensive, but it's not a matter for the law. People should live with it," he said.

"We believe government should focus on defence, border protection and school education, not putting pink batts in people's roofs."


Another crucial issue is corporal punishment in schools. "There was that case in Sydney recently where some poor lady was knocked out of a motorised wheelchair. They were said to be boys. They could do with a few strokes of the rattan (Singaporean cane)," he said. "I received a few strokes when I talked out of turn in Singapore. You didn't step out of line again."

Mr Martinkovits said CANdo was a rival to GetUp, the left-wing activist group, and was looking to appoint high-profile patrons in each state and territory.

He estimated its active support base at 16,000.

"In the US, they have the Tea Party, which is not a party, but a coalition of conservative groups that are just sick of government waste. I suppose we see ourselves as an Australian version," he said.

Prof Flint said the reaction to Jones's comments on Prime Minister Julia Gillard's father having "died of shame" was an "overreaction".

"I think it suited a lot of people. At last we got him. They then proceeded to use it against him," he said. "She (Gillard) called (Liberal MP) Christopher Pyne a mincing poodle ... but he took it. I think if you accept those things, you don't worry about it."Prof Flint, who guest lectures in law at the University of Technology, Sydney, said many asylum seekers deliberately destroyed documentation to seek refugee status.

Asked if he believed half those arriving on boats were not legitimate refugees, Prof Flint said: "Yes. That's what I am saying."

Jones said CANdo aimed to lobby the federal government to establish an elected convention to draft referendum questions designed to increase government accountability.

"We need a similar referendum today on the subject of greater government accountability on border protection (and) uncontrolled mining," Jones said. "Governments need to be held accountable for their promises.

"CANdo is about, in the first instance, seeking appropriate debate on these outcomes and then, quite simply, making it happen."
Well that's all very interesting... Do we need a tea party in Australia? Wasn't One Nation a form of Tea party? Certainly Pauline Hanson's Support Movement/group, started by Bruce Whiteside was.

CANdo has been around for quite a while, I visited it early on... being a Conservative and all that. Yet it wasn't long before I realised they weren't really a true Conservative group and having shown a few of them up for the bigots and ignorant they were, was promptly suspended by the Moderators. I never bothered to go back. Seems posting the truth and upsetting the handful of people who dominate the site there is against the rules. This is much like Daily Wire a LW Progressive site that has the most politically biased mods I've come across. Monk would love it there, even the Mods jump in and give it to anyone who dissents.
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Re: CANdo/Tea Party wannabies?

Post by Neferti » Sun Dec 16, 2012 3:49 pm

I still don't understand the American Tea Party. Extremely right-wing?

I am more of a Libertarian than a true Conservative (right-wing religious?). i.e.
Libertarians advocate minimizing coercion and emphasize freedom, liberty, and voluntary association. Libertarians generally advocate a society with significantly less government compared to most present day societies.


On the other hand I would never, ever vote Labor or Green. I am far too honest for that. :lol:

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Re: CANdo/Tea Party wannabies?

Post by Rorschach » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:07 pm

Conservatism is not Right Wing nor is it religious.
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Re: CANdo/Tea Party wannabies?

Post by Neferti » Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:24 pm

Rorschach wrote:Conservatism is not Right Wing nor is it religious.
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Re: CANdo/Tea Party wannabies?

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:15 pm

While there exist organizations such as Getup and the plethora of leftwing greenie groups who manage to get funding from leftwing govts and are actually taxpayer funded cheer squads for them, then the existence of conservative equivalents is not only needed but well overdue.

The major difficulty with organising conservatives is they are generally not whinging bandwagoning fucking tards like leftys are
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Re: CANdo/Tea Party wannabies?

Post by Rorschach » Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:19 pm

con·serv·a·tism
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noun
1.
the disposition to preserve or restore what is established and traditional and to limit change.
2.
the principles and practices of political conservatives.
Cultural Dictionary
conservatism definition

A general preference for the existing order of society, and an opposition to efforts to bring about sharp change. ( Compare liberalism.)
con·serv·a·tive
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adjective
1.
disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
2.
cautiously moderate or purposefully low: a conservative estimate.
3.
traditional in style or manner; avoiding novelty or showiness: conservative suit.
Medical Dictionary
conservative con·ser·va·tive (kən-sûr'və-tĭv)
adj.
Of or relating to treatment by gradual, limited, or well-established procedures; not radical.
Nef... I define CONSERVATISM as: a political philosophy advocating the preservation of the best of the established order in society and opposing radical change, or simply change for its own sake.
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