How long until Gilliar gets dumped?

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Re: How long until Gilliar gets dumped?

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:56 pm

What a filthy dirty lying cuntofathing that rancid piece of red haired union spooge receptacle is
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Re: How long until Gilliar gets dumped?

Post by Rorschach » Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:04 pm

ROTFLMAO...

I guess that's why she's usually so terse and evasive about it then eh?

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Re: How long until Gilliar gets dumped?

Post by Rorschach » Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:07 pm

The Australian Political "Killing Season" is almost upon us...
The question is - Will Gillard see it out and still be PM at the end of it?
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Re: How long until Gilliar gets dumped?

Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:09 pm

:oops

Seems Julia’s dodgy boyfriend Wilson has spoken out saying Julia knew nothing about any fraud. As we already knew.

http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/ar ... 19882&vId=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Murdoch sleaze sheets will doubtless still run some shit based on what Blewitt told them/the cops.

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Re: How long until Gilliar gets dumped?

Post by Rorschach » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:30 pm

You are a bit slow read that ages ago in another source.
Wilson is careful with what he says (or more precisely what he doesn't say)... and I've been waiting just for you to be stupid enough to post it.

You claim Blewitt the bagman a minor player is not to be trusted... yet the head of the "criminal" actions according to you should be believed.

Just a tad hypocritical don't you think?
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Post by Jovial Monk » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:36 pm

More on Wilson:
JULIA Gillard's former boyfriend Bruce Wilson says the Prime Minister knew "absolutely, categorically nothing" about a 1990s union fraud.

Mr Wilson, a former state secretary of the Australian Workers Union, has also told News Limited newspapers that his former colleague, union bagman Ralph Blewitt, is a "very risky" person for critics of Ms Gillard to rely on.

Speaking for the first time since the Prime Minister has faced renewed questioning in recent weeks about the scandal at the AWU, Mr Wilson said: "They can go on a witch-hunt for as long as they like, and they will find nothing that will do her (Gillard) any harm."

"(She) knew absolutely, categorically nothing," he told News Limited from his NSW Central Coast home.

Mr Wilson was in a relationship with Ms Gillard in the 1990s when he allegedly used an association, which she provided legal advice to help set up, to defraud hundreds of thousands of dollars from the AWU. Ms Gillard has repeatedly and strenuously denied wrongdoing, saying she knew nothing about the workings of the association, which she later described a "slush fund" for the re-election of union officials.

Mr Blewitt, who controlled the association with Mr Wilson, on Friday provided a statement to Victorian police about his role in the fraud.

Mr Wilson told News Limited newspapers: "Relying on Ralph to be your star witness is a very, very risky strategy. It's not one I would be prepared to take."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/bi ... LCufSO-AB8

This, of course, is wrong:
A former state secretary of the AWU in WA and Victoria, he is the alleged mastermind behind a fraud that saw up to $1 million in union funds misappropriated between 1991 and 1995.
The fund received moneys from Thiess and other businesses dealing with the AWU.

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Re: How long until Gilliar gets dumped?

Post by Rorschach » Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:56 pm

What are you trying to say JM... come on... out with it.
Are you trying to say we should all believe the big crook and not the little crook?

Is that is?
Is that what you want us all to believe?


You don't see that as you being very hypocritical? :rofl :rofl :rofl

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Post by Jovial Monk » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:03 am

If this crap does die a death then Abbott will go down further in PPM and approvals, dragging the LNP support down with him.

Hmmm is all this a ploy to get rid of Abbott next week after all?

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Re: How long until Gilliar gets dumped?

Post by Rorschach » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:07 am

Well Abbott has been pretty careful with what he's said about it up till now.
He's just said the PM needs to clear the air.
But people like yourself will believe labors lies and it seems make them up yourselves.
I think if there is an investigation and their should be... and Julia is cleared of any wrong doing it will impact a bit in the polls but nowhere near as much as the Godwin Grech stuff-up.
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Re: How long until Gilliar gets dumped?

Post by Rorschach » Sun Nov 25, 2012 12:57 am

I know you linked to this but you were very selective in your excerpt choice.
Remembering what Shorten said about this affair...
“That account was unauthorised by the union and it was an inappropriate account ...”
Bill Kelty joins critics of AWU fund as Julia Gillard fights back
* by: Joe Kelly and David Crowe
* From: The Australian
* November 24, 2012 3:20PM

FORMER ACTU secretary Bill Kelty has criticised as "inappropriate" the use of a secret Australian Workers Union fund in the 1990s as Julia Gillard fights off attacks about her part in the affair.

Mr Kelty backed cabinet minister and former AWU leader Bill Shorten in declaring the fund to be "out of bounds" but added that the attention on the affair was a distraction from more pressing issues including economic policy and border protection.

Caucus members said Ms Gillard should make a statement to parliament about her link to the fund, while Tasmanian independent Andrew Wilkie also said she should answer "outstanding questions" about her past.

Setting her strategy for a brutal week in federal parliament on Monday, Ms Gillard sought to tough out another round of Coalition attacks on the grounds that the entire matter boiled down to "absolutely nothing". But the opposition plans to continue its interrogation of Ms Gillard over her role as a salaried partner at Slater & Gordon in the 90s in giving advice to help set up an association for her then client and boyfriend, Bruce Wilson.

The association, which Ms Gillard later described as a "slush fund" for the re-election of union officials, was used by Mr Wilson and his bagman Ralph Blewitt to defraud the AWU of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Mr Blewitt yesterday gave Victorian police three written statements about his involvement in an affair on condition that none of the material could be used in court against him. Ms Gillard has repeatedly denied wrongdoing, saying she had no knowledge of the workings of the fund. But she knew it was a slush fund even though it was registered as something else.

Deputy Opposition Leader Julie Bishop vowed last night to question Ms Gillard closely about her professional conduct as a lawyer, in a clear escalation of the Coalition strategy when parliament resumes on Monday.

In particular, the opposition has been pressing Ms Gillard on whether she should have informed Slater & Gordon's client, the AWU, about the existence of the slush fund when the firm became aware the union and police were investigating alleged fraud by Mr Wilson involving a separate Victorian fund.

Mr Shorten told the ABC's Lateline this week that the fund was "unauthorised", "inappropriate" and "out of bounds" but added that he was satisfied with Ms Gillard's explanations about the matter. Mr Kelty said he had a very high regard for Mr Shorten's views and that most people in the unions would have regarded those kind of funds as being inappropriate. How many times does this have to be stated, and Julia knew about it.

"If they're not authorised, then they're not known, they're secret and nobody knows what purpose they're for," he said. "All I can say is that unions in my experience were overwhelmingly frank and honest and raised their money in those ways." Mr Kelty, who led the labour movement at the time of the AWU affair in the 90s, said he had not examined the issue in detail and did not know of the fund's existence at the time.

It is alleged that Mr Wilson and Mr Blewitt used the fund - the AWU Workplace Reform Association - to collect money from companies, which said later they thought it was going to legitimate purposes. Some of the cash was allegedly used to pay for a Melbourne house that Mr Blewitt bought with a mortgage taken out through Slater & Gordon. I hope you got that point about collecting money from companies because you made some vague point that didn't makes sense regarding it earlier.

While Ms Gillard has denied being in charge of the conveyancing for the house, which Mr Wilson lived in, she faced questions yesterday over a Commonwealth Bank letter addressed to her at Slater & Gordon in March 1993 that suggested she knew about the mortgage insurance arrangements for the property.

Former Slater & Gordon partner Nick Styant-Browne told ABC's 7.30 there was "absolutely no doubt" that Ms Gillard not only knew of the Slater & Gordon mortgage in March 1993 but was involved in helping to set it up.
I gather he isn't a crook but you deny his word too.

The Prime Minister said yesterday this only showed that she could not recall events when asked about them many years ago. "What this boils down to is that 17 years ago I couldn't recall events that happened 2 1/2 years earlier. That's what it boils down to," she told reporters in Melbourne. Many people have used the I can't remember defense over the years.

"And let's be very clear that the event I couldn't recall, the matter I couldn't recall, related to Slater & Gordon issuing a mortgage. Not a matter associated with any union fund or account." So does she actually remember everything about the SLUSH fund after all?

Treasurer Wayne Swan, defending the Prime Minister today against what he said was a smear campaign, attacked Mr Styant-Browne, describing him as "disgruntled''. Uh huh... Wayne who told us there would be no Carbon Tax Swan.

"I don't see that that gentleman... has the degree of credibility to give these matters any relevance or weight in our current political debate," Mr Swan told a Sydney media conference. but I bet like you he thinks Wilson is credible :rofl :rofl :rofl

Ms Bishop said last night that in her "20 years experience as a practising lawyer, my observation of her conduct is that it ... did not meet the standards expected of a partner in a law firm". Which could explain Julia's rapid departure from Slater and Gordon.

She said she would ask Ms Gillard the sorts of questions that the AWU should have asked in the 90s and which the union's former leader, Ian Cambridge, wanted answered at the time.

One senior government source said the Prime Minister's strategy was clearly not working, adding: "This is something that could affect the future of the government."

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