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Re: Gillard tells Abbott how it is

Post by Aussie » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:25 pm

From here.

Yesterday our world changed. You bet it did!

It is difficult for many men to ever truly understand what it is like to be a woman who is forced to put up with s-xist and misogynist remarks. Some of them are devious and sly. Some of them are openly hostile and aggressive. Rarely in the workplace do women ever call out men on these remarks.Suck on that Ratsack!

Why is this? Because men usually hold the positions of power in most workplaces. Because to call out a man on s-xist remarks is to be labelled a man-hating feminist or a troublemaker or not a "team player". Those women who are brave enough to do this are sometimes punished in some way. And for this reason most women try to ignore the insults and just get on with their work.Bloody oath!

My mother always told me "to rise above it" and not reduce yourself to the level of the abuser. Thankfully my father taught me to never be put down and to speak and write as an equal. It has not always been to my advantage to do so. But unless you do, nothing will change.You'd have to agree with that, Ratsack.

For the first time in our political history, we have a woman holding the power of the highest office in the nation. There are many men, particularly Tony Abbott, who have sought to rip that power away from her as soon as possible. But she has withstood them. Despite all the "slings and arrows" they have flung at her, she has tried valiantly to rise above it.

Yesterday in Parliament she could take it no more. And she let Abbott have it. She had reached her tipping point and refused to be silent in the face of his hypocrisy.Any argument with that Ratsack?

Her first words were: "I will not be lectured about s-xism and misogyny by this man. I will not." And with composure and passion she went on to list, with dates and times, the many acts of s-xism and misogyny that he had performed against her.

She challenged him to confirm whether he still believed that "men by their physiology and temperament were more suited to the exercise of power".

She stated that she was not only personally offended but was offended on behalf of the women of Australia when he stated that "abortion is the easy way out".

She pointed out that no man would ever have been challenged in the manner she was, "to make an honest woman of herself".

Any problem with those paragraphs, Ratsack? It is all correct, is it not?

She underlined the double standard of Abbott standing in front of posters saying "ditch the witch" and naming her as "Bob Brown's bitch". Such hypocrisy, she said, could no longer be tolerated.Yes, that he did, and yes, that she did.

Abbott sat there unsure of how to shape his expression, knowing his usual stony, killer stare would not work. Looking decidedly uncomfortable at being forced for the first time to endure this personal attack on his own s-xism, he finally looked at his watch, to check how much longer he had to endure. She even called him out on this, adding: "Apparently a woman has spoken too long. I have had him yell at me to shut up in the past."Yes he did, and yes she did. Can't argue with that, hey Ratsack?

While most male commentators admitted that it was a "feisty" performance, they did not go on to discuss the hypocrisy and double standards of the Leader of the Opposition. Nor do they understand how important such a speech is to the women of Australia. This was not just one woman's exasperated outburst on her own behalf. This was the Prime Minister of Australia saying to every Australian woman: we don't have to take this any more.And that is 100% correct. Women ought not have to tolerate. You'll agree, I''m sure Ratsack.

When Peter Hartcher claimed in his column in The Sydney Morning Herald that Gillard had let down the women of Australia, he could not have got it more wrong. The hundreds of responses to his claim demonstrated that for the first time in our lives, a prime minister was speaking on our behalf. The fact he and most of the male political commentators have totally missed the point of her speech only serves to prove what she is saying is true.Do you agree that Hadley had hundreds of responses of the kind described, Ratsack, or is the author lying?

Will her speech just drift off into the ether with all the other political hot air?No way!

Why has her speech spread so quickly around the world? Why are women in many different nations reading it and commenting on how lucky Australian women are to have a prime minister who has the guts and passion to attack the kind of s-xism that some of us face on a daily basis?

Few might remember the details of the Slipper saga but her words will ring in our minds and our hearts forever.

The Prime Minister's message is clear. When confronted by relentless s-xist and misogynist language and behaviour, women should: confront it openly, call it for what it is and never consider it to be acceptable behaviour under any circumstances.

Whether Abbott changes his manner, his language and his beliefs or just pretends to in order to become the next prime minister is up to him -- and the women and men of Australia to judge.

Whatever happens, Gillard's words in that Parliament will never be erased. They are proof that words can change the world.Do you have a problem with any of those paragraphs Ratsack?

I do hope you get the point, Ratsack.

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Re: Gillard tells Abbott how it is

Post by Neferti » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:33 pm

mantra wrote:
Get off your moral high horse. You're coming across as a hypocrite.
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So, Mantra, what makes me more of a hypocrite than you are?

Who cares if she's had a number of relationships - most single women do when they're younger. Those who are inexperienced and enter into a loveless marriage and commit themselves forever are those you should be concerned about.
The wives and children of the men she USED care. Gillard was in her mid 30's when she had the affair with Bruce Wilson. She had plenty of time to find some unattached Lawyer in Melbourne but no, she chose a Union man who had a wife and kids. So, Mantra, are you going to blame him?

Perhaps you feel sorry for Gillard because she hasn't been married or had kids? She has, on 3 occasions that we know about, sought out MARRIED MEN with KIDS. She is the proverbial RED BITCH! It shows in her so-called speeches in Parliament. What Julia wants, Julia gets is what her Mother said. Her parents brought up a spoilt brat and Julia is still that brat. We do NOT need brats running this country.
I don't particularly like Gillard - but she has her good moments. We've seen Abbott in action under a Coalition government and he was rejected generally because of his regressive attitude towards female issues. You think he's going to suddenly change his spots?
Really? You mean you dislike Gillard less than you dislike Abbott? How odd for a Greenie! If you have to go by the two in Parliament .......... Gillard is the MOST shrill and warfie-like with her fractured vowels who grinds away and you end up turning her OFF. Tony sounds like a normal Aussie male. He does NOT have a "regressive" attitude towards female issues. You have been listening to Rudd and Gillard and reading too many Lefty articles.

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regressing or tending to regress; retrogressive.
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Logic . obtained from or characterized by backward reasoning.

Forget about Abbott being the family man. It's irrelevant to those who would rather see some policies on the table than his constant bad mouthing of the government.
The Liberal Party Policies are on the Liberal Party site. http://www.liberal.org.au/

When the Election is called THEN you will find out what else to expect. Remember the "me to" of KRudd?

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Re: Gillard tells Abbott how it is

Post by mantra » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:34 pm

That is an excellent article Aussie. It has hit the spot with women and we're allowed to agree with her. She took a stance that many of us can't or won't articulate because of the repercussions. We don't want to make waves. The article is true. Women tolerate sexist comments - in fact we take them for granted and in silence, because that's what we're used to.

Bravo Julia.

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Re: Gillard tells Abbott how it is

Post by mantra » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:36 pm

Rorschach wrote:I noticed you failed to answer my last post with proof of anything mantra.
Their policies haven't changed in years. Abbott has spruiked nothing new aside from his futile promises of undoing every policy that this government has implemented. It will cost a fortune in his attempts to do so - although like the current coalition premiers - if he manages to get in he will destroy public services. Are the burnt out coalition still capable of being useful? They are past their used by date - that much is obvious.
So what are they then mantra? You inferred they didn't have any.
I can think of 1 new promise from just last week. Sorry, make that 2.
KRudd spruiked that he would undo Workchoices, undo The Pacific Solution, etc, etc....
Please provide proof of the rest of the ALP propaganda you spouted.
What was the promise Abbott made last week? I've forgotten it, although I remember him spruiking something distasteful.

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Re: Gillard tells Abbott how it is

Post by Rorschach » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:48 pm

Oh now let me think.... finally fixing the Pacific Hwy and putting funds towards the NSW government's new Sydney west connection oh and I just remembered something else... which has been mentioned here recently, the CCTV funding, to protect you at night whilst you walk around in a green daze.
That didn't take a lot of effort mantra. :roll:

you are as bad as Aussie when it comes to answering questions and providing facts to back your baseless claims up.
Oh and yes Aussie I'm coming for you "big-boy"... as soon as someone explains to me the red and black stuff :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Re: Gillard tells Abbott how it is

Post by Neferti » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:51 pm

mantra wrote:That is an excellent article Aussie. It has hit the spot with women and we're allowed to agree with her. She took a stance that many of us can't or won't articulate because of the repercussions. We don't want to make waves. The article is true. Women tolerate sexist comments - in fact we take them for granted and in silence, because that's what we're used to.

Bravo Julia.
Absolute bullshit, Mantra. Gillard has done more for men than for females. I DEFINITELY do NOT associate myself with females like Gillard. She gives normal women a bad name. I am a so-called strong woman. I have never felt the need to become a Fish Wife to get attention. Nor have I needed to flash the eyelashes to do so. I EXPECT to be treated as an equal and in most cases, I am.

Yelling like a Fish Wife in Parliament is NOT a good look, regardless of what you Lefties think. For the Americans to call OUR Prime Minister a "bad ass mother fucker" is an INSULT. Not a compliment. Due to Gillard, we are now known, internationally, as a downtrodden Government where the PM acts without decorum and screams like a banshee. And they are right.

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Re: Gillard tells Abbott how it is

Post by mantra » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:56 pm

Rorschach wrote:Oh now let me think.... finally fixing the Pacific Hwy and putting funds towards the NSW government's new Sydney west connection oh and I just remembered something else... which has been mentioned here recently, the CCTV funding, to protect you at night whilst you walk around in a green daze.
That didn't take a lot of effort mantra. :roll:

you are as bad as Aussie when it comes to answering questions and providing facts to back your baseless claims up.
Oh and yes Aussie I'm coming for you "big-boy"... as soon as someone explains to me the red and black stuff :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Yes I recall his promise about finally fixing the Pacific Highway - but does anyone really believe any politician when they bring up that old furphy time and time again. Promises have been made to fix it for decades, but where did Abbott say he was going to get the money to fix it? By sacrificing yet again one of the city rail links? Or maybe it was cutting funding to health?

I don't walk around alone at night and where will CCTV's be installed? Perhaps the eastern suburbs or the north shore - after all only the wealthy are vulnerable? I can't see him wasting too much money on the poor old western suburbs where unemployment and crime is rife.

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Re: Gillard tells Abbott how it is

Post by Bart » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:01 pm

Remember, anyone who criticises Tony "Mr Polite & Respectful" Abbott (or even the Liberal Party) is sexist. :thumb
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Re: Gillard tells Abbott how it is

Post by Neferti » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:03 pm

Bart wrote:Remember, anyone who criticises Tony "Mr Polite & Respectful" Abbott (or even the Liberal Party) is sexist. :thumb
Mantra has lost it. ;)

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Re: Gillard tells Abbott how it is

Post by Aussie » Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:06 pm

you are as bad as Aussie when it comes to answering questions and providing facts to back your baseless claims up.
I do hope you have complained to the Admin about these off topic comments. Huh?

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