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Reasons not to vote LABOR.

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Maxine McKew book claims Julia Gillard was deeply involved in Kevin Rudd's sacking
* by: Simon Benson
* From: The Daily Telegraph
* September 15, 2012 12:00AM
JULIA Gillard was deeply involved in a well-planned operation to remove Kevin Rudd from the leadership in 2010, according to a forthcoming book by former Labor MP Maxine McKew.
The potentially damaging expose will challenge claims by the Prime Minister that she had been a reluctant draftee into the plan to roll Mr Rudd and only decided to challenge the day before the spill.
The Daily Telegraph has learned that the book, which is set to reignite tensions over the leadership tussle between the two when published in November, has devoted a chapter entitled "Ambush" to the events of June 2010.
Sources intimate with some of the detail in the book, called Tales From The Political Trenches, said it "will be very uncomfortable for some current members of the cabinet".
It is believed to contain claims, drawn from numerous interviews with Labor MPs and staffers, that Mr Rudd was given no warning that members of his cabinet were unhappy about his leadership or that they would seek to replace him if things didn't change. Why would he? He's a narcissistic megalomaniac.
It is also believed to include previously unpublished insights into the involvement of Housing Minister Brendan O'Connor and Workplace Relations Minister Bill Shorten, in a plot that had been planned well in advance.
Ms McKew, a former ABC journalist who defeated John Howard to take the seat of Bennelong in 2007, yesterday said the coup had been a "corrosive" influence on the Australian public's trust in politics and had not been properly explained. mckew, who for years claim a non-biased political view. ABC - McKew, Jones, Glover, Marr, Humphries, O'Brien...
"There is no doubt the distrust in the Australian community we see today can be traced back to a degree of disillusionment and questioning of what happened in 2010," Ms McKew said. Well actually most were just disappointed they didn't get a chance to vote KRudd out. It is not like getting rid of him was a bad idea.
"I'm trying to answer the question as to what happened.
"It's not pro-Rudd or pro-Gillard or anti-Rudd or anti-Gillard, it is a far more complex version than what's out there in the public space." yeah, yeah, yeah, just like you were never pro-Labor.
Ms McKew, who is still an ALP member, would not confirm details or events described in the book, other than to say it covered her career inside and outside politics, as well as the demise of Mr Rudd.
Ms McKew's will be the second book to examine the Rudd sacking, with the release today of another book, written by former public servant in the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, James Button.
The book, Speechless: A Year In My Father's Business, repeats claims he first made in the lead up to Mr Rudd's attempt to retake the leadership in February that the former prime minister was dysfunctional and impossible to work with. Tell us something we didn't know.
The department yesterday confirmed it had seen an earlier version of the book and had directed Mr Button, the son of former Labor minister John Button, to remove certain sections as they may have breached the Public Service Code of Conduct requiring that communications between ministers remain confidential.
"The department raised with Mr Button and his publishers the existence of ongoing duties of confidentiality and emphasised the need for observance of those duties," a spokesman said.
The accounts of the most dramatic period in Australian politics since the Gough Whitlam dismissal, have prompted a harsh response from a former Rudd staffer, who claimed Mr Button only ever met Mr Rudd three or four times, spent less than 60 minutes in total with him, and appeared to hold a grudge against the former PM because he refused to use Mr Button's speeches. Please don't let it be that idiot... that used to be on 2GB.
"He worked in the department, he may have come in for a couple of scheduled meetings, but to go and write a book based on a couple of meetings is a bit rich," a former Rudd staffer said.
Ms Gillard's office did not comment on the books.
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Nobody here cares! There is a PA Election ON ......
I never, ever thought that I would get involved in an online political forum and the members thereof, but I have.
We have ALL welcomed you, too Rorschach.
Sit back, relax and after the Forum Election is done ......... then consider NOT getting upset about others who have different ideas.
I never, ever thought that I would get involved in an online political forum and the members thereof, but I have.
We have ALL welcomed you, too Rorschach.
Sit back, relax and after the Forum Election is done ......... then consider NOT getting upset about others who have different ideas.

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Age is apparently dimming your senses neferti...
as far as welcomes are concerned mine has been mixed shall we say.
I don't care.
I care about the content and the debate... which btw requires others to have opinions... in some cases they will be and I expect them to be... "different idea".
You are as based as Labor battering Abbott... I'm not upset... that's just your imagination getting it completely wrong.
So feel free to enter the real debate or as IQS would say... STFU!
as far as welcomes are concerned mine has been mixed shall we say.
I don't care.
I care about the content and the debate... which btw requires others to have opinions... in some cases they will be and I expect them to be... "different idea".
You are as based as Labor battering Abbott... I'm not upset... that's just your imagination getting it completely wrong.
So feel free to enter the real debate or as IQS would say... STFU!
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Abuse is Treasurer's stock in trade
October 8, 2012
Paul Sheehan
Sydney Morning Herald columnist
One member of the federal cabinet is the Member for Gutter. Another is the Member for Sewer. One resides permanently in the gutter, the other resides permanently in the sewer.
To understand the unprecedented ugliness, the carnivorous churn, that at present afflicts the apex of Australian political debate, one need only look back several weeks to September 19, when Julia Gillard returned to Parliament after attending the funeral of her father and the funerals of three Australian soldiers who had been killed in Afghanistan.
The Prime Minister was white with grief. After she spoke of her father and the military funerals, the Leader of the Opposition rose to reply. This is what Tony Abbott said:
"On behalf of the Coalition . . . I welcome the Prime Minister back after her bereavement leave. This is a tragic time for her, and we all feel for her at this very difficult and sad time. I also acknowledge the sad duty that the Prime Minister and I have been engaged in over the last few days attending military funerals . . . I again acknowledge John Gillard, who has done his country proud in producing such a daughter."
You would think this was untouchable. But no. It must be the tenor of the times, the massive amount of trolling that goes on in political discourse, via Twitter, via the internet, via social media, and via constant opinion polling. The political class lives permanently on edge.
This fraught context can only go so far in explaining the endless distortions and smears that have become the daily language of the federal Treasurer, Wayne Swan. Even when packaged in a suit and tie and surrounded by the gravitas of the House of Representatives, he looks and sounds like a spiv.
In preparation for this column I spent two days going through the Hansards of recent months, extracting all the personal insults that Swan has engaged in, all the outrageous distortions, all the self-praise. I've found the sheer amount of damning material from his own mouth can't be contained in this confined space. It requires a chapter, not a column.
Earlier this year I described Anthony Albanese, another member of cabinet and the leader of government business in the House, as someone who had made the gutter his permanent address. He still lives there. He's added an extra room. But Swan has found somewhere lower to dwell. He has found the sewer. Well good to see someone else has noticed Alba-sleazy.
It was entirely predictable that of the 102 Labor members of Federal Parliament, the two who sought to exploit the death of John Gillard for political advantage were Albanese and Swan. The Member for Gutter and the Member for Sewer sought to attach blame to Abbott for a distasteful remark made by the broadcaster Alan Jones about John Gillard's death. Abbott had encouraged the ugly tone, they said, with not a shred of irony.
It was business as usual. These two have been alleging for months that Abbott has a personal problem with women, a scurrilous line that has no basis in fact and is overwhelmed by contrary evidence, starting with his wife and his three grown daughters who are proud of their father. I'm not suggesting that Labor has a monopoly on parliamentary boors. The Liberal shadow minister Sophie Mirabella would win the bronze medal in the boorishness competition after Swan (gold) and Albanese (silver).
The nastiness coming from the top of the federal government reflects the hollow moral core of a government that operates as a front for the unions and depends on the support of the moral Frankenstein of Australian politics, Craig Thomson. If Albanese resides in the gutter, and Swan the sewer, Thomson occupies a public prison of disgrace.
This is the moral foundation of the Gillard government. It is little wonder that the party grassroots are withering. Labor is about self-interest. It is about big unions and big public service bureaucracies staffed with public sector unionists who vote Labor.
The evolution of progressive passions and anti-corporate agendas has thus shifted to other groups which camouflage their agenda as they seek support from an inherently conservative mainstream. Groups such as the Greens, GetUp! and Change.org.
The Greens are not an environmental party. Everyone has worked out their real agenda. GetUp! operates largely as a front for the unions and the hard left. Now comes Change.org, the organisation at the centre of the Alan Jones boycott campaign. All operated by LW progressive pissants.
Change.org would have us believe it is a neutral platform for grassroots democracy, like Twitter and Facebook. It is not. It did not just provide the technology for disseminating the boycott campaign against Alan Jones. It provided the social platform. It provided the scale. It provided the context. It provided media support. It sent out press releases with ringing endorsements of the campaign, quoting the Australian director of Change.org, Nick Allardice: "As more advertisers pull out, the more consumers are buoyed by their ability to hold people like Alan Jones to account for what they say, and the more pressure builds on advertisers who are left."
Note the use of the term "people like Alan Jones". yes it has always been that the Left cannot tolerate dissent from their pov.
Change.org also drew attention to the commercial damage caused by campaigns using its platform, and did so with approval: "A petition on Change.org led to more than 60 advertisers withdrawing their advertising from the Kyle and Jackie O program, at a cost of more than $10 million."
Or, as one reader wrote, with revealing candour, in a letter published in the Herald last week: "We do not want Alan Jones on the air." Which is the real reason behind the OTT self righteous indignation and hypocrisy.
That is also what the Member for Gutter and the Member for Sewer want.
Which leads us to a cure – attempted ruin and suppression – that is worse than the disease.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/ ... z28hkPrF8e" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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