care to list them?[/quote]Your personal attacks on me rather speak for themselves.
get a grip hebe. Your hyperbowl is almost as bad as his.
I'm thinking political or misplaced personal bias.
oh come on... who are you Aussie.
shoot down your crap.
.So puhlease, the mere fact you have no idea and refuse to accept your bias is wrong is not my problem, but yours
You mean Jones' apology?And as for the so-called apology, the one word missing was "sorry".
No, I got that you were on the same side.
Yes I did. I also noticed all the non-factual libelous claims as well.Did you notice I paid tribute to his philanthropy when I first posted?
Well they weren't. If you think they were aggressive you need help. Your comment on Jones were much more personal and aggressive than anything I said about you... which if I count all your quotes only one could be conceived as any sort of personal attack. That is rather hypocritical of you.I just thought your responses were needlessly aggressive.
That I did and most of my comments were about your non-factual content, not you personally.I didn't comment about you or the way you posted - you put up some good stuff.
So your observation, which I cast serious doubt on BTW, out weighs my 30 years of observation? My and my friends' personal knowledge of the subject and all the information I posted which refutes your claims?My opinion of Jones is based on what I've observed over the years. And yes, I meant Jones's "apology".
GoodI have a life thanks.
Your choice.It won't be continued on here.
Well not as long as people are allowed to libel others they have no real knowledge of. I don't find that sort of thing funny at all.I've moved on, obviously, and this place is not the interesting, informative and funny place it used to be.
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October 1, 2012
Michelle Grattan
Political editor of The Age
IN THIS toxic political climate, the appalling comment that shock jock Alan Jones made about the death of Julia Gillard's father has now become part of the wider battle between Labor and the Coalition.
The government is attempting to tar Tony Abbott with the behaviour of Jones, who told a Sydney University Liberal Club function that John Gillard had died ''of shame'' over his daughter's lies.
Cabinet minister Craig Emerson claimed this represented ''the culture that Abbott and his sidekicks seek to promote in the Liberal Party''.
Jones is close to Abbott and the Liberals and his excesses are hard for them to deal with.
You are judged by your friends and your reactions in times like this. Malcolm Turnbull's response was instant and impeccable: Jones' remarks were cruel and offensive, he tweeted. In a more insipid reaction, Abbott called them ''completely out of line'' but by the time he got that on the record, Turnbull had had his say and the issue had gone wild on social media.
For the Liberals especially, there are several problems in taking a tough line towards Jones. Many fear crossing him because of his influence and his bullying tactics. He is one of them, in that he is part of their battering ram against the Labor government in general, and the Prime Minister in particular. And he is the medium to his audience, who are the ''battlers'' Abbott needs to win and hold.
Jones will stop at nothing (even if he later has to apologise) in what he will say about Gillard, and his constant attacks have done her damage. From the Liberals' point of view, they get the benefit without usually having the dirt on their own hands.
But when Jones goes over the top, as this time, he can drag Abbott into trouble vicariously.
No doubt Gillard is, as she should be, angry and upset over Jones' latest behaviour. He really had a nerve in then trying to get through to her on the telephone to give her the long version of yesterday's tortured news conference apology.
A hard-eyed government, though, is also going to use the incident as a knife to slash at Abbott.
Some Liberals will console themselves that out in the western suburbs they won't be too preoccupied with the kerfuffle. But most Australians have a sense of decency and quite a few may feel Jones has offended that.
Should the Liberal Party ban Jones from being MC at fund-raising functions? No. Apart from any issue of principle, it would just make a martyr of him, and stir an argument not worth having.
Should Liberals organising such functions ask him to be MC? Definitely not. Do Liberals really want someone who's so lacking in sensibility as well as sense among them?
Well, some will. But hopefully a lot of self-respecting members of the party will think twice.
As for Jones himself, he was yesterday out to ''man up'' and say he got it wrong. But his apology came with all sorts of blather about the PM's emotional state and suggestions some breach of Chatham House rules had been committed in recording what he'd thought was a private function. As if it would have been more acceptable if there had been no audio record.
In judging his apology, one has to wonder how much Jones was driven by considerations of sponsors and radio station 2GB if he did not, to use his words, ''eat [ crow] while it's hot''.
October 1, 2012
Michelle Grattan
Political editor of The Age
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