How low can Jones go?

[Hebe]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-30/j ... ks/4288118

Along the lines of "I'm sorry IF anyone was offended".

Fluffy bunny.

[Rorschach]

You mean you don't know?

I suppose this is political - move it if not. What a low thing to say. Jones has said some of the most hateful things in Australian politics - he hates the left, he hates (seemingly) women, he hates aborigines.

He's been charged with indecency, contempt of court and plagiarism, defamation, contempt of court, cash for comment.

He's racist, bigoted, and a misogynist.

Quite obviously to those that know and have watched his career, radio and before... most if not all these things are incorrect to some extent. But it is a good list of those things LW Progressives have said about him with the exception of his sexual preferences which Mike Carlton seems to have fun with hinting at.

You forgot to mention he is elitist and an academic snob... which clearly he is.

[Hebe]

I don't care about his sexual preferences, but the other things are well-documented.

Notice that I said he's been charged with a lot of those things.

His racism: his reaction to the Australian of the Year in 1993

His sexism and bigotry

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/conten ... 599230.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/se ... -australia

http://mumbrella.com.au/alan-jones-is-a ... yle-115560

His track record is disgusting.

[Rorschach]

So that was proof? Documented proof? LW opinion pieces and awards?

I don't care about his sexual preferences, but the other things are well-documented.

As an aside, do you suppose some behaviours of someone who is "gay" say, could be misconstrued as being misogynistic?

Notice that I said he's been charged with a lot of those things.

I never said you didn't. You also didn't list what things he was found guilty of and not... either.

His racism: his reaction to the Australian of the Year in 1993

So he believes one race is superior to another based on genetics due to what? Gee he must be very confused about the Ella's then. Not to mention what he thinks of; Noel Pearson, George Gregan, Usain Bolt, etc, etc, etc... your arguments are legless.

His sexism and bigotry

You gotta back claims up with lots of examples before they are a trait. BTW bigotry seems these days to be very much in the eye of the beholder, so I wouldn't even try that one on. BTW Jones defended such claims re women very well in his apology and his life doesn't back it up. If you don't think Gillard, and Clover Moore are making a mess of things, just to name 2 then what side of the looking glass do you come from? Jones BTW used to be a very OTT supporter of Gillard.

oh and puhlease your unbiased non-political sources... abc, the guardian, mumbrella

Oh and if you want to use an analogy...

His track record is disgusting.

the examples you based this on don't even have him at the starting blocks, so how can you come to such a position? I'm thinking political or misplaced personal bias.

[Hebe]

Okay, show me one "unbiased" article about Jones that isn't based on perceived "lefties' " opinion of him and just a reaction to objections by the so-called left to things he has said and done.

What are your unbiased sources?

[Rorschach]

From the "we're not negative" nor do we "attack people" party, calls for Tony Abbott to apologise for Jones' behaviour. To sack him from a party he says he's s not a member of.

Abbott says Jones was 'out of line'
* From: AAP
* September 30, 2012 3:20PM

OPPOSITION Leader Tony Abbott says comments by broadcaster Alan Jones about Prime Minister Julia Gillard's father were completely out of line.

Jones has apologised to Ms Gillard after suggesting at a Liberal Party function that her father died of shame because of her lies.

John Gillard died this month aged 83 after a long battle with illness.

Jones's comments - secretly recorded by a News Limited reporter - sparked outrage on social media and among both Labor and Liberal politicians.

Mr Abbott added his voice to the condemnation on Sunday afternoon.

"Alan's remarks regarding the PM were completely out of line," he said in a brief statement.

"It's good that he's recognised this and apologised for them."

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/na ... z27vjLb9Pi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Low-rent comment a decent man would not make
September 30, 2012 - 3:22PM
Michelle Grattan
Political editor of The Age

There is one simple thing to say about radio personality Alan Jones' remark on the cause of death of Julia Gillard's father John. It was a low-rent comment that an ordinary decent man would not make. Totally agree.

"The old man recently died a few weeks ago of shame", Jones told a Sydney University Liberal club function. "To think that he had a daughter who told lies every time she stood for Parliament".

Jones has apologised at a long news conference. He said he had tried to call the PM. She is not interested in taking his call. Why would she be? Why would Jones think for a moment that she might be?

He admits that "a person like me" should not have repeated the remark — which he says he had heard made as a "black parody" earlier in the day at his godson's birthday party.

But he also added that he believed it was a private function; he did not think anyone would be recording it; and it was a "rollicking" night, in which he himself wasn't spared. Although he said he wasn't offering an excuse, he was clearly trying to suggest all this amounted to some mitigating circumstances. When is an excuse not an excuse. He was full of it.

If he really thought a university function of this type could be private, he is more naive than one would expect. But that is irrelevant. The point is that he would at the time consider it appropriate to say what he did at any gathering, public or private. Exactly... the thought might run through your head, but never seriously and it was never going to be acceptable or appropriate.

Jones is a serial offender. He clearly regards it as okay to say almost anything about the Prime Minister. It is just that this time he was caught red handed. Yep. Been watching it get worse for years. Even sent an email to Abbott's office re the likely-hood of this sort of thing happening and Jones being a bigger liability than asset ages ago. No one apparently listens. in either party it would seem.

In evaluating his apology it is worth considering what would have happened if he had not quickly made it. Sponsors and the radio station he is on, 2GB, would have come under enormous public pressure. Jones is certainly savvy enough to know that. Is he sorry for what he said — or for the trouble it has caused him? Nope... not even for being caught. Even though the lip licking and dry mouth gave his nervousness/anxiety at the event gave him away.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politi ... z27vklDiG9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Rorschach]

Okay, show me one "unbiased" article about Jones that isn't based on perceived "lefties' " opinion of him and just a reaction to objections by the so-called left to things he has said and done.

What are your unbiased sources?

oh come on... who are you Aussie.
You are if you think I'm going to look for media articles for you.
I already gave you well known examples to shoot down your crap.
I'll just stick to the facts.

I've been a talkback listener for over 30 years,
I know people who personally know or have met Jones.
I'm aware of his public record even some stuff not so public.
So puhlease, the mere fact you have no idea and refuse to accept your bias is wrong is not my problem, but yours.

You presented 3 recent biased articles... good grief did you even read the mumbrella one? The writer even admitted his personal dislike and bias.

[Hebe]

I asked for a source - like a newspaper or website, not specific references.

No, I'm not Aussie, and I'm happy to leave it at the fact that Jones has a reputation which I think he's earned. I really don't give a stuff if you listen to talkback radio for your information. Your personal attacks on me rather speak for themselves.

I'm a librarian and I'd back my reference skills against yours any day.

[Rorschach]

After your previous examples I wouldn't.

[boxy]

You may have thought that Laws was bad in his hay day, but compared to today's arseclowns, he was a level headed and impartial professional.

Did anyone hear something about a "chaff bag jacket" being involved in that young liberal's function?

The dinner also featured an auction with items that included a jacket made of chaff bags autographed by Jones. The material is a reference to the broadcaster's infamous comment that Julia Gillard should be "put in a chaff bag and thrown into the sea". Jones bid on and won the jacket, but said the auction wasn't his idea. The annual $100-per-head Sydney University Liberal Club President's Dinner was held on the top floor of Sydney's Waterfront restaurant in The Rocks last Saturday.