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Liberals vs Nationals

Post by Rorschach » Sat Sep 08, 2012 11:06 am

Sometime I really wonder why so-called political editors cannot see politics through less biased and more realistic eyes.
Abbott cuts Joyce loose
September 8, 2012
Peter Hartcher
Sydney Morning Herald political and international editor

Tony Abbott's role model in developing his style as Opposition Leader was Barnstorming Barnaby Joyce. But this week something changed between the two men. It was an important moment for Australia. :roll

It was Barnaby Joyce who led in developing what's become the Abbott trademark - the angry, populist, fear-mongering attack on the carbon tax. :roll :roll

Even when Malcolm Turnbull was still Liberal leader, even when Tony Abbott was advising his colleagues just to wave carbon pricing through, Joyce was giving furious stump speeches railing against the "great big new tax" and warning darkly of $100 lamb roasts.

Abbott decided to jump aboard the Barnaby wagon. He rode it all the way to the leader's job. He rode it to a near-win in the 2010 election. And he rode it to a crushing and persistent poll lead over the government. That is not how it happened but hey, Chris why let the truth get in the way of your re-interpretation.

Abbott took off his hat to the National Party senator for Queensland: "I think that Barnaby is a uniquely gifted retail politician," he said as he took the leadership and invited Barnaby onto his frontbench.

But this week Joyce led a new populist attack against the government, and, this time, Abbott refused to follow. Why is it that when people have a different opinion the progressive media call them populist? Like it was some disease to have values that many others share.

Barnaby, almost single-handed, generated a big wave of controversy over the Gillard government's approval of a foreign buyout of Cubbie Station, a huge, thirsty, cotton farm in Queensland and the biggest farming property in Australia. He called it a "bloody disgrace" that sold out the national interest. Well Barnaby isn't alone in this at all Chris.

His point of objection? That the foreign company that dominates the buying consortium was once a state-owned entity and while it had been "nominally privatised" it was still a "state-connected" enterprise. Good grief talk about fact free... Barnaby has put forward many reason why he personally sees the sale as wrong. personally I and many others agree. Is it populist to have common sense?

The decision by the Treasurer, Wayne Swan, to give conditional approval was a "farce" because it gave another nation's government the right of sovereign ownership "over a piece of our sovereign soil". :roll

You can see the populist potential of this. It strikes all the old themes struck reliably by populists going back to the 18th century: selling off the farm, Chinese invasion, loss of sovereignty, foreign interference. How about addressing all the points and stop the name calling and labelling Chris, how about getting your brain in gear and addressing the issues... issues Chris... not issue.

The story became one of the biggest in the media this week. It was the fifth most-discussed political story with a total of 6819 reports or mentions in print, on air and online, according to Sentia Media, formerly Media Monitors. It's a particularly hot topic outside the capital cities. Really? Wow it must really be popular then eh... as opposed to populist.

It might have seemed tempting to an Opposition Leader looking for a new wagon to ride. The carbon-attack wagon has lost momentum as the reality of the tax is nowhere near the advertised Armageddon. The asylum-seeker wagon is growing a bit sluggish too now that it is co-owned by Labor and the Coalition. You wish. The Carbon tax was always going to be a slow burn, building momentum with a free period for at least the first 3 months. Asylum seekers will continue as long as labor FAILS.

But it turned out that Abbott had reached the limit of his range as a populist fear-monger. This time, the master led but the apprentice refused to follow. Wow Abbott" a populist fear-monger." Nothing like the climate ALARMISTS eh? Talk about political bias you should sack yourself Chris Hartcher.

Abbott and his Treasury spokesman, Joe Hockey, complained about the timing of Swan's announcement, made late on a Friday afternoon, the traditional time for companies reporting bad news or governments trying to minimise coverage. The late Friday announcement is known as time to "put out your garbage".

But not the substance. Abbott yesterday: "We have a very strong policy on foreign investment. We support foreign investment. It has to be in the national interest and there is a process for determining whether the national interest is in fact being advanced. Proving once again that the Liberals are not the same as the Nationals. Which is a good thing.

"It goes before the Foreign Investment Review Board, then it goes to the Treasurer. The Treasurer often will impose conditions on the sale and that is exactly what happened in this particular case."

Cubbie Station, which produces 10 per cent of the national cotton crop on a small inland sea's worth of water from the Murray-Darling system and is worked by 170 staff, has been in serious financial strife, in voluntary administration for three years, with reported debts of $320 million, and unable to find a buyer.

A Chinese-Australian consortium has bid a reported sum of something under $300 million. The Australian investor, with 20 per cent of the equity, is Lempriere, a century-and-a-half old family-owned textile business. Billing it as Chinese-Australian is a bit rich it is hardly 50-50. More like Chinese-Chinese-Chinese-Chinese-Australian, to be more accurate.

The Chinese investor, with the other 80 per cent, is Shandong RuYi Scientific & Technological Group. In turn, it's owned by a consortium of Japanese and Chinese investors. It has stated assets of $430 million and 30,000 employees across three continents. Despite Joyce's furious hints and imputations, it is not state-owned or state-controlled. LOL, all Chinese business comes under the State in some form or another.

Swan said that commercial negotiations could proceed on a number of strict conditions. One is that the Chinese partner, RuYi, must sell down its equity to 51 per cent over three years. Others are that the property is managed by the Australian partner; that half the board is Australian; and that the existing staff are allowed to stay on with their current levels of benefits. Further, the cotton must be marketed at arms-length. So selling down doesn't mean to Australians.

The Liberals' deputy leader, Julie Bishop, remarked: "Having the certainty of the injection of funds into the station to secure its profitability and secure its jobs is better than having it in administration. It's good for the region and good for the nation." But not 100% in Australian hands which considering it's relevence might have been a better idea.

The Brisbane Courier-Mail agreed: "The alternative, as recognised by the sensible members of the Nationals, that the cotton farm would be closed, 170 jobs would be lost and the water allocations sold off. Where is the local - or national - interest in that?" Why couldn't the government which gives so much of our money away and wastes so much of it on bad projects not have bought in and saved it in the National interest and provided jobs for more Australians and built skills?

The paper took aim at Joyce as not one of the sensible Nationals: "It would be disappointing if Senator Joyce was playing politics with real investment and real jobs for Queensland." Yet Joyce is in fact in all he says advocating Australian interests.

Joyce playing politics? But of course he is. Joyce is in the career cul-de-sac known as the Senate. He is an ambitious politician and wants to move to the House. More political bias Chris? Isn't Joyce openly in fact looking at moving to the HOR. Which has more to do with moving within the National Party.

Once there, he would like to take the leadership of the National Party and, assuming the Coalition wins the next election, Barnaby would become deputy prime minister. Oh so it has. Nice of you to mention it.

But to get there, he needs a seat, and the one he covets is his local Queensland seat of Maranoa. This seat, which covers a land area larger than France, also happens to be home to Cubbie Station. Which is why and logically he has an interest.

The problem for Joyce is that the seat is currently occupied by Bruce Scott, age 67. Scott is what the Courier-Mail would call a "sensible" National. He supports the Chinese-Japanese-Australian bid for Cubbie. Sensible in whose opinion? Not mine. Lazy is the word I'd use.

So by positioning against the sale, Joyce is also positioning against his own National Party colleague and the man in the seat that he covets. Joyce would have had the same position even if he wasn't attempting a move to the HOR.

Abbott knows all about the power of the economic nationalists and xenophobes of Queensland populism. It was Abbott who led the Liberal Party demolition of Pauline Hanson. Her One Nation party opened a dangerous division in the conservative voter base. More name calling Chris? Of course there is. Abbot was foolish to do so. Hanson merely voice the opinion of those without a voice, those Abbott and the Liberals left behind.

Under the right conditions, that division opens up like a gaping wound, red and angry, like Barnaby Joyce himself mid-tirade. And that is exactly the danger that Joyce poses. The Joyce campaign, unchecked, has the potential to split the Coalition and revisit the 1987 Joh-for-Canberra campaign. How much do you actually hate Joyce, Hartcher? Why this big tirade against him?

That campaign of Queensland populism led by the premier, Joh Bjelke-Petersen, divided the Coalition vote and destroyed John Howard's federal election campaign.

That's exactly why Abbott checked the Joyce campaign. Abbott shut him down and Joe Hockey asserted his authority on Coalition economic policy to support the Foreign Investment Review Board framework. He said the Coalition naysayers were "freelancing" and did not represent Coalition policy. Yes, well that is rubbish and as the Liberals always say, the Liberal Party is a big church, with many opinions. The Nationals are not the liberals and so there should be no shutting down of opinion. Unless of course you want to be a hypocrite.

During his interview on the ABC's 7.30 on Wednesday, Leigh Sales asked Joyce whether he'd spoken with Abbott or Hockey in the previous 24 hours?

Joyce: Yes.

Sales: And what was said?

Joyce: That's none of your business.

It's perfectly clear what was said. Well no it is not. Joyce has since limited his criticism to attacking the way Swan announced his decision, not the substance of the decision itself or the framework for foreign investment. Both Labor and the Coalition have working groups looking at improving the transparency and management of the foreign investment regime, looking to tweak it rather than tear it up.

But we can now be reasonably confident that rational policy in the national interest will remain a bipartisan commitment, in this area, at least. Which is just as well. Rational, in whose opinion? Your Chris?

Australia has deep dependence on foreign investment, trade and immigration, and always has. But shouldl ween itself off it and build its own future. We need always to be alert to how best to manage these central supports to our prosperity and social wellbeing, and always vigilant against threats to their health. So you see change as a threat? Then why support the progressives who champion change?

Australia is about to give birth to the Asian Century white paper in the next few weeks, written by the former Treasury secretary Ken Henry and the ANU's Peter Drysdale. Barnaby Joyce is set to be the witch at the christening, muttering dark imprecations and curses at the happy event. Oh dear more name-calling. More assumptions. or is it a matter of vested interests.

But because Tony Abbott has outgrown Barnaby Joyce, choosing a rational policy over a populist one, Australia should be able to embrace the event in the national interest. Barnaby Joyce, for all his faults, is one of the more sensible and consistent politicians in Canberra. More so than Abbott.

Peter Hartcher is the political editor.
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Re: Liberals vs Nationals

Post by IQS.RLOW » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:37 pm

Who the fuck is Chris?
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Re: Liberals vs Nationals

Post by Rorschach » Sat Sep 08, 2012 12:56 pm

:oops

Wrong Hartcher.
Should be Peter.

LOL, not my day.
Doing too many things at once.

Unfortunately the EDIT time is too short on this forum to fix stuff unless you are right on top of it.
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Re: Liberals vs Nationals

Post by Rorschach » Mon Sep 10, 2012 2:27 pm

Would you trust China with our environment and water?

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