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Re: ALP scrap the NBN

Post by Rorschach » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:14 pm

Careful JM you'll choke on the EMedicine propaganda.
You obviously haven't researched yet.
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Re: ALP scrap the NBN

Post by Black Orchid » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:21 pm

Any scans/xrays I have had done in the past 18 months or more have been given to me on disc, public and private. No bulky envelopes and no NBN required

Most GPs worth their salt will tell you that they cannot competently read scans anyway and rely on the report from specialists trained in this area

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Re: ALP scrap the NBN

Post by Neferti » Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:30 pm

Black Orchid wrote:Any scans/xrays I have had done in the past 18 months or more have been given to me on disc, public and private. No bulky envelopes and no NBN required

Most GPs worth their salt will tell you that they cannot competently read scans anyway and rely on the report from specialists trained in this area

Monk is known to be a rusted on lefty. So an inveterate liar and myth teller/producer. :purple

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Re: ALP scrap the NBN

Post by Jovial Monk » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:18 am

Business services are starting to be introduced:
NBN Co is now promising minimum fault-repair times for small, medium and large businesses, and will activate its first business-specific network service today.

A single premises can request up to 50 voice services, on a fibre connection, for $330 per month, which is less than it would cost to get multiple telephone lines on a copper network, people in the industry say. [My emphasis.]

''NBN for Business'' is available through internet providers, because NBN Co is not allowed to sell directly to businesses or households.

The service includes a one-hour response time for faults and a promise to restore an internet and phone connection within 12 hours in urban areas, 1½ days in regional areas and 2½ days in remote areas. NBN support staff will be available for five more hours a day for business customers than household customers.

Small- and medium-sized businesses are expected to be the biggest beneficiaries because large enterprises are likely to already have high-capacity and high-speed networks.

NBN Co's head of product development and sales, Jim Hassell, said businesses depended on reliable telephone and internet connections and needed minimum service level agreements. ''All of the products up to now have been focused on the consumer market,'' he said.

NBN Co charges the same access prices for business customers as households, but it will charge for additional services.
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Re: ALP scrap the NBN

Post by Super Nova » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:00 am

Jovial Monk wrote:Business services are starting to be introduced:
NBN Co is now promising minimum fault-repair times for small, medium and large businesses, and will activate its first business-specific network service today.

A single premises can request up to 50 voice services, on a fibre connection, for $330 per month, which is less than it would cost to get multiple telephone lines on a copper network, people in the industry say. [My emphasis.]

''NBN for Business'' is available through internet providers, because NBN Co is not allowed to sell directly to businesses or households.

The service includes a one-hour response time for faults and a promise to restore an internet and phone connection within 12 hours in urban areas, 1½ days in regional areas and 2½ days in remote areas. NBN support staff will be available for five more hours a day for business customers than household customers.

Small- and medium-sized businesses are expected to be the biggest beneficiaries because large enterprises are likely to already have high-capacity and high-speed networks.

NBN Co's head of product development and sales, Jim Hassell, said businesses depended on reliable telephone and internet connections and needed minimum service level agreements. ''All of the products up to now have been focused on the consumer market,'' he said.

NBN Co charges the same access prices for business customers as households, but it will charge for additional services.
Wow. NBN can deliver the same service as copper and subsidised by the government can deliver it for a few pennys less. Great investment case.

It's only useful if they deliver an improved technology with the service. Video phones ...etc. If it's just a telephone.... big fucking deal.

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Re: ALP scrap the NBN

Post by Jovial Monk » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:45 pm

You really are an utter moron, aren’t you SN? No experience of small–medium business at all.

50 lines times say $20/month = ? Compared to NBN? Few dollars?

NBN will not be subsidised and will actually pay a good return to the govt. 50 phone lines does not mean 50 fibres BTW.

You want video phones? HiDef, proper lip synch video phones I presume? The NBN, FTTH, can deliver that because of its high upload as well as download bandwidth. More than video calls it can deliver telepresence!

At one stage my business had six lines and $1800/quarter telephone bills, 6 x $30 x 3 = $540/quarter just in line rental! Hardly a fe pennies!

Thank you for agreeing, finally, that only FTTH as in the NBN is worth doing!

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Re: ALP scrap the NBN

Post by Neferti » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:52 pm

Monk, getting stuck into the Home Brew on a warm Tuesday afternoon is no reason for you to do you nut and raise your BP because somebody on a Forum disagreed with your thinking. CALM DOWN! You'll give yourself a aneurysm!!!

By the time the NBN gets to your doorstep, Life (and technology) will have advanced so much you won't even want it. :Hi

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Re: ALP scrap the NBN

Post by Rorschach » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:00 pm

Neferti is right.
By the time the rollout is finished the NBN will be all but obsolete.
In 20 years they will have to dig it all up and set up the new technology or replace the fibre.
Emedicine as portrayed by Labor is science-fiction and fraught with problems.
Where will the peripheral devices come from and how much will they cost house-holders?
What Doctor will accept a diagnoses online without first having a personal proper check-up or risk being sued.
how much will insurance companies charge doctors for using such technology if and when available.
As for your idea of everyday use... give me a break.
The immediate use will be good mostly, for Movie theft and gamers.
Oh and have you bothered to check into the phone situation? My guess is no. :hlo
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Re: ALP scrap the NBN

Post by Jovial Monk » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:57 pm

Neferti~ wrote:Monk, getting stuck into the Home Brew on a warm Tuesday afternoon is no reason for you to do you nut and raise your BP because somebody on a Forum disagreed with your thinking. CALM DOWN! You'll give yourself a aneurysm!!!

By the time the NBN gets to your doorstep, Life (and technology) will have advanced so much you won't even want it. :Hi
SN had been crapping on about the NBN crap bad this way or that way etc, so now he has effectively agreed the NBN will be great.

Naffie Naffie Naffie you are about the 5 millionth ignorant wanker to crap on about better technology than the NBN! Fibre conducts light (EM radiation) much faster than wireless can do. It can offer huge bandwidth!

The next thing in computing will be quantum computers. 20 years is probably about right for that technology to become mature: superior, reliable and widely adopted. But to connect two quantum computers you need a waveform and fibre is a great waveform! Any variety of wireless will have too much latency to be used with quantum computing.

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Re: ALP scrap the NBN

Post by Rorschach » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:43 pm

Sadly Monk, in your case it is a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Or should I say your ignorance far outweighs your knowledge.
How often does "fibre" need to be replaced?

Psst, Monk, how's the ignore thing working for you.
It's working great for me.
Free kicks all over the place and no need to continually correct the lies and misinformation. :rofl
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