Is Nauru going to be good enough for the refugees?

[Rorschach]

You keep ignoring the facts mantra.

These people are damaged when they come here.
Need I remind you of their criminal behaviours or the Tampa or what occurred on the Manoora.
The lip sewing, the child abuse, etc, etc, etc. These are not by our standards normal people mantra.
These people are not all genuine refugees
These people are malingerers and scammers.

The Pacific Solution ie; offshore detention centres are not the cause of their claims.
The UN ran the processing centres.
Villawood is not part of the pacific solution nor is the company who runs onshore centres, these are where most of the claims have come from.
There was barely a soul in detention when Rudd abandoned it, that is over 5 years ago. These claims have mostly come to light over the last 2 years. Not the last 5.

[TomB]

............
These people are not all genuine refugees
These people are malingerers and scammers.

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This is a typical argument of the anti refugee wing. A clever and subtle use of grammar.

"These people are not all genuine refugees" (yet many/most are).
"These people are malingerers and scammers." (here is where they all depicted as evil).

[Rorschach]

Just so you know, I don't believe they all are at all, that is the pro-non-genuine refugee supporter myth.

I understand the concerns of Tamil and Hazara peoples, even those from other middle eastern countries where they are minorities. But there are other closer nations they can find refuge in, Countries more easily assimilable for them and their culture. It is economics and welfare that drive them here. the more we welcome, the more they then urge others to come, and that is how it works. We are not the answer to the worlds oppressed or those merely seeking better economic conditions. Funnily enough Captain Emad and his family were accepted here. As have others been who should not be here. Have you seen Afghanis trying to pass themselves off as Hazara, yet they do not have Hazara "blood" in them? I have. Immigration under Labor have done a very poor job. Labor have tied their hands and told them to let them in. People who support and use the services of people smugglers should immediately FAIL the character test and be sent packing. People who dump their id papers should immediately FAIL the character test and be sent packing. There is no excuse for this except dishonesty.

The vast majority of boat people are still unemployed 5 years after coming here. Thank God for Australian welfare. Something they have never contributed to.

[Jovial Monk]

Still no one has worked out what is different between the PS and now? If you had listened to the news today you would have realised it. Morons!

[mantra]

Still no one has worked out what is different between the PS and now? If you had listened to the news today you would have realised it. Morons!

Tell us then?

Dateline last night delved into why the Tamil Tigers are heading over here. There is peace for them now in Sri Lanka, but the few they interviewed could only talk about how much money the Australian government was going to give them when they arrived. Most of them appeared to be economic refugees.

On the other hand if anyone watched "Go back to where you came from" - you can understand why they are fleeing from Afghanistan. One boat person who was returned under the Howard government and had seen others killed who had been returned also - said he would have been happy to stay at Nauru.

Afghanistan has become a whole lot worse since the American troops burnt 500 Korans.

[IQS.RLOW]

Everyone has already realized that the ALP has capitulated and adopted only a pittance of the PS...hence why the boats are still coming

Can't even get a backflip right

[Jovial Monk]

Told you the Pacific Solution didn’t work.

[WOLRSQI]

Everyone has already realized that the ALP has capitulated and adopted only a pittance of the PS...hence why the boats are still coming

Can't even get a backflip right

[Rorschach]

Nice to see that first paragraph re tamils mantra, saves me having to be the bearer of bad tidings to the pro-refugee soft touches. BTW they are not the only economic refugees.

On the other hand if anyone watched "Go back to where you came from" - you can understand why they are fleeing from Afghanistan. One boat person who was returned under the Howard government and had seen others killed who had been returned - said he would have been happy to stay at Nauru.

Peter Reith was on radio today and stated that the show you see on tv is not the reality and that it has been edited to push a pro-refugee message instead of the truth. EG; one refugee who returned was not forced to return against his will he accepted payment from the government to return... yet another kind of economic refugee.

Genuine refugees would be happy to be away from the danger and being looked after, even if the conditions were not first class, unlike many who arrive and protest and abuse our good nature and generosity.

[Rorschach]

Oh and Monk, Peter Reith also said it will take a change of government before all the reforms are re-introduced and the boat stop again.

can't wait
how about you?