Evolution is not a scientific theory

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Re: Evolution is not a scientific theory

Post by boxy » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:26 pm

freediver wrote:
boxy wrote:
freediver wrote:Education should teach children how to think, not what to think. Science education should focus on the basics of science and how to research for yourself.
Hippy bullshit. While it is important to teach critical thinking, it is also important to teach the basics of foundation theories.
Oh, you mean something like this?
Science education should focus on the basics of science
Evolution by natural selection is the basics of science, numbnuts. Just as Newtonian physics is.
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Re: Evolution is not a scientific theory

Post by boxy » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:31 pm

BTW, it's pretty crappy forum etiquette, quoting me by name, and then quoting someone else (without attributing the quotes to them) in the same post.
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Re: Evolution is not a scientific theory

Post by Aussie » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:42 pm

boxy wrote:BTW, it's pretty crappy forum etiquette, quoting me by name, and then quoting someone else (without attributing the quotes to them) in the same post.
You have to be joking, boxy. You have been thunderously silent (and therefor, complicit) on the worst demonstration of 'forum etiquette' PA has ever endured. Hypocrite, much?

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Re: Evolution is not a scientific theory

Post by freediver » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:45 pm

numbnuts wrote:BTW, it's pretty crappy forum etiquette, quoting me by name, and then quoting someone else (without attributing the quotes to them) in the same post.
Why? Do you get confused about which bit you wrote?
What is yours in the same brevity and without any obfuscation?
Evolution is not a scientific theory.
Evolution by natural selection is the basics of science, numbnuts. Just as Newtonian physics is.
Natural selection is basic science. Evolution is not even a scientific theory.

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Re: Evolution is not a scientific theory

Post by boxy » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:03 pm

freediver wrote:
Evolution by natural selection is the basics of science, numbnuts. Just as Newtonian physics is.
Natural selection is basic science. Evolution is not even a scientific theory.
Evolution by natural selection, numbnuts, FTW.
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Re: Evolution is not a scientific theory

Post by freediver » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:52 pm

numbnuts wrote:
freediver wrote:
Evolution by natural selection is the basics of science, numbnuts. Just as Newtonian physics is.
Natural selection is basic science. Evolution is not even a scientific theory.
Evolution by natural selection, numbnuts, FTW.
That's all you have have to offer? Repeating yourself, FTW?

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Re: Evolution is not a scientific theory

Post by IQ savioring » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:46 am

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Freediver. wrote:I think evolution shouldnt be classed as a science because it is a never ending untestable hypothesis that doesnt harm anyone but I think AGW should be taught in school, change the economy to suit, the science is settled and force humans to use less energy

It's a philosophical question to ask where does my hypocrisy end?
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Re: Evolution is not a scientific theory

Post by mantra » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:58 am

boxy wrote:
freediver wrote:
Evolution by natural selection is the basics of science, numbnuts. Just as Newtonian physics is.
Natural selection is basic science. Evolution is not even a scientific theory.
Evolution by natural selection, numbnuts, FTW.
Wiki defines evolution as social anthropology, which is why it was probably taught under social studies or similar at public schools, but it is contemporary anthropology, a 20th century American innovation, which is called a scientific theory. So again this debate stems from your own personal views. The more you delve into this - the more complicated it becomes. No wonder so many children switch off to the teacher's drone.
In the 20th century, academic disciplines have often been institutionally divided into three broad domains. The natural and biological sciences seek to derive general laws through reproducible and verifiable experiments. The humanities generally study local traditions, through their history, literature, music, and arts, with an emphasis on understanding particular individuals, events, or eras.

The social sciences have generally attempted to develop scientific methods to understand social phenomena in a generalised way, though usually with methods distinct from those of the natural sciences. In particular, social sciences often develop statistical descriptions rather than the general laws derived in physics or chemistry, or they may explain individual cases through more general principles, as in many fields of psychology. Anthropology (like some fields of history) does not easily fit into one of these categories, and different branches of anthropology draw on one or more of these domains.

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Re: Evolution is not a scientific theory

Post by annielaurie » Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:31 am

Here, this is from Wikipedia,
Evolution is any change across successive generations in the inherited characteristics of biological populations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including species, individual organisms and molecules such as DNA and proteins.[1]

Life on Earth originated and then evolved from a universal common ancestor approximately 3.7 billion years ago. Repeated speciation and the divergence of life can be inferred from shared sets of biochemical and morphological traits, or by shared DNA sequences. These homologous traits and sequences are more similar among species that share a more recent common ancestor, and can be used to reconstruct evolutionary histories, using both existing species and the fossil record. Existing patterns of biodiversity have been shaped both by speciation and by extinction.[2]

Charles Darwin was the first to formulate a scientific argument for the theory of evolution by means of natural selection. Evolution by natural selection is a process that is inferred from three facts about populations: 1) more offspring are produced than can possibly survive, 2) traits vary among individuals, leading to differential rates of survival and reproduction, and 3) trait differences are heritable.[3] Thus, when members of a population die they are replaced by the progeny of parents that were better adapted to survive and reproduce in the environment in which natural selection took place. This process creates and preserves traits that are seemingly fitted for the functional roles they perform.[4] Natural selection is the only known cause of adaptation, but not the only known cause of evolution. Other, nonadaptive causes of evolution include mutation and genetic drift.[5]

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Does not sound like social anthropology, this is science and scientific theory .. :read
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Re: Evolution is not a scientific theory

Post by freediver » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:27 am

Wiki defines evolution as social anthropology, which is why it was probably taught under social studies or similar at public schools
That is very interesting. Was it actually taught that way, or are you guessing? When I went through it was definitely taught in science class.

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