Win11 is almost here.

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Re: Win11 is almost here.

Post by Jovial Monk » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:22 pm

Some Unix was in some OSs, sure. Not sure now tho, esp with the new RISC chip machines.

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Re: Win11 is almost here.

Post by Bobby » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:45 pm

brian ross wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:21 pm
Bobby wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:09 pm
brian ross wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:06 pm
Linux is a better OS than Windoze. Far better. No ransomware for Linux. :roll: :roll:
Welcome back Brian.

I have never used anything other than Windows on a computer.

( but I do have an Android mobile phone)
Android is branded version of Linux. There is ultimately no difference for a user between Windows and Linux. Linux is just a steeper learning curve. Nothing more. You can use a GUI which is identical to Windows if you desire.

Thanks Brian,
I believe Govt. Depts have Linux systems so they know what the source code is
rather than accept Microsoft and all their spooky files.

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Re: Win11 is almost here.

Post by Super Nova » Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:10 pm

brian ross wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:19 pm
Jovial Monk wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:14 pm
brian ross wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:06 pm
Linux is a better OS than Windoze. Far better. No ransomware for Linux. :roll: :roll:
MacOS is even better tho!
MacOS is a branded version of Linux.
The Kernel started and was based on Unix/Lynx. So the architecture is Unix based.
Opensource start, who knows what it is now.
Always remember what you post, send or do on the internet is not private and you are responsible.

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Re: Win11 is almost here.

Post by brian ross » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:49 pm

Super Nova wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:10 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:19 pm
Jovial Monk wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:14 pm
brian ross wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:06 pm
Linux is a better OS than Windoze. Far better. No ransomware for Linux. :roll: :roll:
MacOS is even better tho!
MacOS is a branded version of Linux.
The Kernel started and was based on Unix/Lynx. So the architecture is Unix based.
Opensource start, who knows what it is now.
There are differences because of the different system architecture. However, the kernel is still essentially Linux.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair

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Re: Win11 is almost here.

Post by brian ross » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:51 pm

Bobby wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:45 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:21 pm
Bobby wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:09 pm
brian ross wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:06 pm
Linux is a better OS than Windoze. Far better. No ransomware for Linux. :roll: :roll:
Welcome back Brian.

I have never used anything other than Windows on a computer.

( but I do have an Android mobile phone)
Android is branded version of Linux. There is ultimately no difference for a user between Windows and Linux. Linux is just a steeper learning curve. Nothing more. You can use a GUI which is identical to Windows if you desire.
Thanks Brian,
I believe Govt. Depts have Linux systems so they know what the source code is
rather than accept Microsoft and all their spooky files.
Most Government Depts use Windoze on their PCs...
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair

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Re: Win11 is almost here.

Post by Bobby » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:53 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:51 pm
Bobby wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:45 pm

Thanks Brian,
I believe Govt. Depts have Linux systems so they know what the source code is
rather than accept Microsoft and all their spooky files.
Most Government Depts use Windoze on their PCs...

OK - if you say so.
I am surprised they trust Microsoft.
You do know that Bill Gates was forced to give the NSA
the source code for Windows as far back as Win95?

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Re: Win11 is almost here.

Post by Super Nova » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:03 am

brian ross wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:49 pm
Super Nova wrote:
Sun Jun 27, 2021 12:10 pm
brian ross wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:19 pm
Jovial Monk wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:14 pm
brian ross wrote:
Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:06 pm
Linux is a better OS than Windoze. Far better. No ransomware for Linux. :roll: :roll:
MacOS is even better tho!
MacOS is a branded version of Linux.
The Kernel started and was based on Unix/Lynx. So the architecture is Unix based.
Opensource start, who knows what it is now.
There are differences because of the different system architecture. However, the kernel is still essentially Linux.
What I mean is the core architecture of the OS is Linux. Everything else is built on that Kernal. Therefore the core architecture of the OS has to be based on Linux. It has to be. What the developer or users of the system may not feel like good old Lynx ad that is not delivered by the Kernal.
Always remember what you post, send or do on the internet is not private and you are responsible.

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Re: Win11 is almost here.

Post by Super Nova » Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:05 am

Bobby wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:53 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:51 pm
Bobby wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:45 pm

Thanks Brian,
I believe Govt. Depts have Linux systems so they know what the source code is
rather than accept Microsoft and all their spooky files.
Most Government Depts use Windoze on their PCs...

OK - if you say so.
I am surprised they trust Microsoft.
You do know that Bill Gates was forced to give the NSA
the source code for Windows as far back as Win95?
You're kidding right? Why are you surprised.

i think you are living in the past too much. Microsoft as moved a lot in the last 20 years.
Hell their SQL Server database is faster and more scalable than Oracle's now.
Their server OS run many large enterprises.
Windows runs much more than people PC/Laptops.
Always remember what you post, send or do on the internet is not private and you are responsible.

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Re: Win11 is almost here.

Post by Bobby » Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:12 am

Super Nova wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:05 am
Bobby wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:53 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:51 pm
Bobby wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:45 pm

Thanks Brian,
I believe Govt. Depts have Linux systems so they know what the source code is
rather than accept Microsoft and all their spooky files.
Most Government Depts use Windoze on their PCs...

OK - if you say so.
I am surprised they trust Microsoft.
You do know that Bill Gates was forced to give the NSA
the source code for Windows as far back as Win95?
You're kidding right? Why are you surprised.

i think you are living in the past too much. Microsoft as moved a lot in the last 20 years.
Hell their SQL Server database is faster and more scalable than Oracle's now.
Their server OS run many large enterprises.
Windows runs much more than people PC/Laptops.

The NSA has always had the full source code updates of all Microsoft software.
Even using Outlook email client and Microsoft 365 encryption -
the NSA always had a backdoor on it which was forced on them by the US Govt.
That is all about today's security not 20 years ago.
The table is tilted - the deck is stacked.

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Re: Win11 is almost here.

Post by Super Nova » Tue Jun 29, 2021 12:39 pm

Bobby wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:12 am
Super Nova wrote:
Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:05 am
Bobby wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:53 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:51 pm
Bobby wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:45 pm

Thanks Brian,
I believe Govt. Depts have Linux systems so they know what the source code is
rather than accept Microsoft and all their spooky files.
Most Government Depts use Windoze on their PCs...

OK - if you say so.
I am surprised they trust Microsoft.
You do know that Bill Gates was forced to give the NSA
the source code for Windows as far back as Win95?
You're kidding right? Why are you surprised.

i think you are living in the past too much. Microsoft as moved a lot in the last 20 years.
Hell their SQL Server database is faster and more scalable than Oracle's now.
Their server OS run many large enterprises.
Windows runs much more than people PC/Laptops.

The NSA has always had the full source code updates of all Microsoft software.
Even using Outlook email client and Microsoft 365 encryption -
the NSA always had a backdoor on it which was forced on them by the US Govt.
That is all about today's security not 20 years ago.
The table is tilted - the deck is stacked.
Windows is pretty secure these days.
I don't believe the NSA has a back door into Windows. I believe they may want to source code to ensure it is secure.
Always remember what you post, send or do on the internet is not private and you are responsible.

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