To be biased is correct

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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by Malcolm_hates_your_kids » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:53 pm

This is why racism is a cancer, for instance. People act in a racist fashion because they don't want to get taken advantage of.

They probably won't...but people think it's better to be safe than sorry.

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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by Black Orchid » Sat Apr 21, 2018 4:48 pm

Hypothetical ...

I live in Melbourne in an area where young African gangs are running rampant and am well aware of it. I see a group of African males coming towards me and I turn and walk swiftly in the opposite direction. Unconscious bias.

I live in Melbourne and have never heard of young African gangs running rampant. Nothing like this happens. I see a group of African males coming towards me and I turn and walk swiftly in the opposite direction. Conscious bias.

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Post by Nicole » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:21 pm

@ Orchid

What you call bias, I call stereotyping. Everyone stereotypes, partly because it's innate to fear the "other", and partly to keep us safe.

This first example is stereotyping to keep one safe:
I live in Melbourne in an area where young African gangs are running rampant and am well aware of it. I see a group of African males coming towards me and I turn and walk swiftly in the opposite direction. Unconscious bias.
You are fully cognisant that young African gangs in the area are dangerous. There's nothing "unconscious" about it.
I live in Melbourne and have never heard of young African gangs running rampant. Nothing like this happens. I see a group of African males coming towards me and I turn and walk swiftly in the opposite direction. Conscious bias.
This is unconscious bias. It is innate in humans because we are tribal at heart, and we steer clear of the unknown, for safety reasons. We learn this from birth.

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Post by sprintcyclist » Sat Apr 21, 2018 6:50 pm

Black Orchid wrote:Hypothetical ...

I live in Melbourne in an area where young African gangs are running rampant and am well aware of it. I see a group of African males coming towards me and I turn and walk swiftly in the opposite direction. Unconscious bias.

I live in Melbourne and have never heard of young African gangs running rampant. Nothing like this happens. I see a group of African males coming towards me and I turn and walk swiftly in the opposite direction. Conscious bias.

' .......... Conscious bias....... '

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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by Black Orchid » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:23 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:@ Orchid

What you call bias, I call stereotyping. Everyone stereotypes, partly because it's innate to fear the "other", and partly to keep us safe.

This first example is stereotyping to keep one safe:
I live in Melbourne in an area where young African gangs are running rampant and am well aware of it. I see a group of African males coming towards me and I turn and walk swiftly in the opposite direction. Unconscious bias.
You are fully cognisant that young African gangs in the area are dangerous. There's nothing "unconscious" about it.
I live in Melbourne and have never heard of young African gangs running rampant. Nothing like this happens. I see a group of African males coming towards me and I turn and walk swiftly in the opposite direction. Conscious bias.
This is unconscious bias. It is innate in humans because we are tribal at heart, and we steer clear of the unknown, for safety reasons. We learn this from birth.
Yes agreed. My apologies.

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Post by sprintcyclist » Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:27 pm

Mistress Nicole wrote:@ Orchid

What you call bias, I call stereotyping. Everyone stereotypes, partly because it's innate to fear the "other", and partly to keep us safe.

This first example is stereotyping to keep one safe:
I live in Melbourne in an area where young African gangs are running rampant and am well aware of it. I see a group of African males coming towards me and I turn and walk swiftly in the opposite direction. Unconscious bias.
You are fully cognisant that young African gangs in the area are dangerous. There's nothing "unconscious" about it.
I live in Melbourne and have never heard of young African gangs running rampant. Nothing like this happens. I see a group of African males coming towards me and I turn and walk swiftly in the opposite direction. Conscious bias.
This is unconscious bias. It is innate in humans because we are tribal at heart, and we steer clear of the unknown, for safety reasons. We learn this from birth.

It is innate in humans because it is right
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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by Nicole » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:37 pm

@ Orchid

Thanks for you agreement and no need to apologise. :)

Do you still stand by this comment:
Conscious bias is another thing entirely and usually hinged on prejudice.

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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by Black Orchid » Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:15 pm

Prejudice is a conscious choice so conscious bias is often rooted in prejudice.

Unconscious bias is unconscious and our unconscious feelings play a strong part in our judgments about other people based on intuition, inclinations and/or prejudices for or against other people.

So basically both can be based on prejudice but probably more so with conscious bias.

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Post by Nicole » Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:26 pm

Prejudice is a conscious choice so conscious bias is often rooted in prejudice.
What causes prejudice in your view? What is prejudice?

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Re: To be biased is correct

Post by sprintcyclist » Sun Apr 22, 2018 12:52 am

Mistress Nicole wrote:
Prejudice is a conscious choice so conscious bias is often rooted in prejudice.
What causes prejudice in your view? What is prejudice?

' ................ What causes prejudice in your view? .................. '

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