US and Iran
- The4thEstate
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Re: US and Iran
You don't have to trust Fox News to recognize that the Obama administration BS'ed the American media into getting behind the Iran deal -- not that they weren't already following Obama around like lost sheep.
Here's what White House adviser Ben Rhodes admitted later to a New York Times Magazine writer:
“Most of the outlets are reporting on world events from Washington. The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. That’s a sea change. They literally know nothing.”
Then there was this from that same article:
In the spring of last year, legions of arms-control experts began popping up at think tanks and on social media, and then became key sources for hundreds of often-clueless reporters. ‘We created an echo chamber,’ [Rhodes] admitted, when I asked him to explain the onslaught of freshly minted experts cheerleading for the deal. "They were saying things that validated what we had given them to say."
I laugh at the fact that Trump scuttled the whole deal like so much toilet paper. Guess you weren't so ingenious after all, Ben!
Here's what White House adviser Ben Rhodes admitted later to a New York Times Magazine writer:
“Most of the outlets are reporting on world events from Washington. The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. That’s a sea change. They literally know nothing.”
Then there was this from that same article:
In the spring of last year, legions of arms-control experts began popping up at think tanks and on social media, and then became key sources for hundreds of often-clueless reporters. ‘We created an echo chamber,’ [Rhodes] admitted, when I asked him to explain the onslaught of freshly minted experts cheerleading for the deal. "They were saying things that validated what we had given them to say."
I laugh at the fact that Trump scuttled the whole deal like so much toilet paper. Guess you weren't so ingenious after all, Ben!
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Re: US and Iran
While the dumb
are focused on the well publicized details of Iran's nuclear program, they forget to discuss the more realistic reasons why some would want a global conflict with Iran. The popular denominator of the last three major Western operations in the Middle East is a good reference point - Iraq, Libya and Syria in short. International petroleum trade policy connects these three together. But I guess this can't be seen by a dumbbell on Xanax/Oxy/Vicodin who spent most of his life serving his Jew masters.
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https://www.foxnews.com/world/iranian-i ... icial-saysFive Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gunboats tried to seize a British oil tanker in the Persian Gulf Wednesday but backed off after a British warship approached, a senior U.S. defense official told Fox News.
The British warship was said to have been less than 5 miles behind the tanker but soon intercepted the Iranian boats and threatened to open fire. A manned U.S. reconnaissance aircraft was above as well, the official said, adding that Iranian forces left without opening fire.
Navy Captain Bill Urban, spokesman for the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM), said the military was aware of the reported actions. He added, “Threats to international freedom of navigation require an international solution. The world economy depends on the free flow of commerce, and it is incumbent on all nations to protect and preserve this lynchpin of global prosperity.”
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At least the Guardian doesn't lie and create Fake News...
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- The Reboot
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How do you really know?brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:20 pm
At least the Guardian doesn't lie and create Fake News...![]()
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Because the news the Guardian reports is verifiable in other sources. What Fox News reports only comes from their arses...The Reboot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:44 amHow do you really know?brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:20 pm
At least the Guardian doesn't lie and create Fake News...![]()
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- Black Orchid
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So you are disputing that five Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gunboats tried to seize a British oil tanker are you Brian? It's very easily verifiable you know.
If you aren't disputing it why the red herring?
If you aren't disputing it why the red herring?
- brian ross
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I am disputing all their bullshit opinion pieces that people like Neferti and you prefer to believe are truth. They are not. They are just that, bullshit designed to cater to immature, naive fools. When you actually realise that you are being led by the nose 'round in circles rather than actually critically consuming the news, you might actually have a hope. Until then, keep leaping to the defence of Fox News - the biggest bullshitters around.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:26 pmSo you are disputing that five Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gunboats tried to seize a British oil tanker are you Brian? It's very easily verifiable you know.
If you aren't disputing it why the red herring?
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- Black Orchid
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So the 5 Iranian gunboats attempting to seize a British tanker is BS according to you. I seebrian ross wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:37 pmI am disputing all their bullshit opinion pieces that people like Neferti and you prefer to believe are truth. They are not. They are just that, bullshit designed to cater to immature, naive fools. When you actually realise that you are being led by the nose 'round in circles rather than actually critically consuming the news, you might actually have a hope. Until then, keep leaping to the defence of Fox News - the biggest bullshitters around.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:26 pmSo you are disputing that five Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gunboats tried to seize a British oil tanker are you Brian? It's very easily verifiable you know.
If you aren't disputing it why the red herring?![]()
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*pats you on the head Brian. There there.*
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- brian ross
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Appears you have a reading comprehension problem there, Black Orchid. Not unusual for Tories, I suppose. Tsk, tsk.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:44 pmSo the 5 Iranian gunboats attempting to seize a British tanker is BS according to you. I seebrian ross wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:37 pmI am disputing all their bullshit opinion pieces that people like Neferti and you prefer to believe are truth. They are not. They are just that, bullshit designed to cater to immature, naive fools. When you actually realise that you are being led by the nose 'round in circles rather than actually critically consuming the news, you might actually have a hope. Until then, keep leaping to the defence of Fox News - the biggest bullshitters around.Black Orchid wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:26 pmSo you are disputing that five Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gunboats tried to seize a British oil tanker are you Brian? It's very easily verifiable you know.
If you aren't disputing it why the red herring?![]()
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*pats you on the head Brian. There there.*![]()
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