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Do we care how bin Laden died

Post by Super Nova » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:05 pm

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A firsthand account of the commando raid by United States Navy SEALs that killed Osama bin Laden contradicts previous accounts by administration officials, raising questions as to whether the terror mastermind presented a clear threat when SEALs first fired upon him.

I don't really care how he died. He had to be eliminated otherwise they would have made more of martyr of him if he was still in the press everyday as they took him to court. Many lifes have been saved by just killing this bastard.

These guys went in to kill him, that's clear. A well executed execution in my view.

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Re: Do we care how bin Laden died

Post by Neferti » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:22 pm

I still don't think Bin Laden actually organised 9/11. The Yanks, when they found him, executed him. No questions asked, The Yanks didn't give him a chance to say anything. That Adelaide fool is lucky. If it wasn't for Howard's Government, he would be dead. Ditto various others. The US always shoots first and ask questions later ....

What's the latest in Afghanistan? Three Aussies dead?

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Re: Do we care how bin Laden died

Post by Super Nova » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:01 pm

I think it was Bin Laden.

I remember the day it happened. We were in a major meeting in the UK for work, the news came in... we all went to the bar to watch it on CNN. I rang my friend in Dubai and he said staight away, "It's Al Qaeda (the Base)" and the bloody bastard was laughing. They all knew what was going on. The Arab jungle drums were keeping everyone informed.

I do think they were instructed to kill him rather than take him alive.
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Re: Do we care how bin Laden died

Post by Rorschach » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:26 pm

good grief... no it wasn't bin laden Neferti it was all done by black ops Americans...
Only Arab conspiracy nutjobs deny he was involved in 9/11.
Please give me a break.

Re Bin laden, the man was an Islamic nutjob.
better gone than killing more innocent people and gathering blind ignorant moronic followers.
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Re: Do we care how bin Laden died

Post by Neferti » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:56 pm

Rorschach wrote:good grief... no it wasn't bin laden Neferti it was all done by black ops Americans...
Only Arab conspiracy nutjobs deny he was involved in 9/11.
Please give me a break.

Re Bin laden, the man was an Islamic nutjob.
better gone than killing more innocent people and gathering blind ignorant moronic followers.
I don't intend getting into an argument about it or deal in conspiracy theories either but as far as I recall Bin Laden didn't own up to being the organiser of 9/11. Those types usually love to take responsibility for such things.

It was very well organised and I very much doubt that "black ops Americans" would have been able to organise such a thing. 8-) Oh, and I didn't DENY Bin Laden was involved, I merely indicated that I believed that it hadn't been proved (or words to that effect).

As far as the "capture" of Bin Laden is concerned and what really, truly happened, buy the book! He was executed then thrown overboard so that he couldn't become a martyr. :o :roll No pictures of Bin Laden with his head blown off or his bullet riddled body ... wives crying over him ....... etc. Not bloody likely.

At least Saddam got captured and mollified before his hanging was fully televised! Disgusting exhibition of hate! They executed his sons though. Plus gruesome pictures were splashed across the media.

The "war" continues in the Middle East, regardless. How long will it take before Aussie (and US) kids can come home. Bin Laden is dead, apparently! They got him. Let the boys go home!

It is now 11 years since 9/11 .... time to move on, I reckon! If "closure" hasn't been had, it never, ever will !

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Re: Do we care how bin Laden died

Post by Rorschach » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:57 pm

I don't intend getting into an argument about it or deal in conspiracy theories either but as far as I recall Bin Laden didn't own up to being the organiser of 9/11.
Well that's the myth. part of the Conspiracy Theory.

Yet I can recall an interview (a rare one) where he was explaining to the Interviewer that they didn't expect the destruction to be so complete. (paraphrase) To me that's admitting to it without saying it directly.

When you say. "Bin laden is dead, apparently!" are you denying that too?

Afghanistan is and always was about more than Bin Laden, and no, I don't mean any oil pipeline either.
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Re: Do we care how bin Laden died

Post by Mattus » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:14 pm

Neferti~ wrote:I still don't think Bin Laden actually organised 9/11.
He didn't. He funded it. The confessed organizer, KSM, is alive and well and in Cuba.
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Re: Do we care how bin Laden died

Post by Aussie » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:17 pm

Mattus wrote:
Neferti~ wrote:I still don't think Bin Laden actually organised 9/11.
He didn't. He funded it. The confessed organizer, KSM, is alive and well and in Cuba.
Correct.

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Re: Do we care how bin Laden died

Post by Super Nova » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:46 pm

Aussie wrote:
Mattus wrote:
Neferti~ wrote:I still don't think Bin Laden actually organised 9/11.
He didn't. He funded it. The confessed organizer, KSM, is alive and well and in Cuba.
Correct.

Thanks Matt and Aussie.

I was not aware that bin Laden just funded it. I knew he funded it but I thought he had a greater hand in it. I understand he would issues directives for things to happen that others would plan and execute the details. I would expect an underling to look after the details. He would have approved 9/11 as the "General" in charge I assumed.

I recall an early video where bin Laden took responsibility on behalf of his organisation.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was a member of Osama bin Laden's terrorist group al-Qaeda organization, although he lived in Afghanistan, heading al-Qaeda's propaganda operations from sometime around 1999. The 9/11 Commission Report alleges that he was "the principal architect of the 9/11 attacks." He is also alleged to have confessed to a role in many of the most significant terrorist plots over the last twenty years, including the World Trade Center 1993 bombings, the Bojinka plot, an aborted 2002 attack on the U.S. Bank Tower in Los Angeles, the Bali nightclub bombings, the failed bombing of American Airlines Flight 63, the Millennium Plot, and the murder of Daniel Pearl.

He was captured on March 1, 2003, in Rawalpindi, Pakistan, by the Inter-Services Intelligence agency of Pakistan, and transferred to U.S. custody. In March 2007, he confessed to masterminding the September 11 attacks, the Richard Reid shoe bombing attempt to blow up an airliner over the Atlantic Ocean, the Bali nightclub bombing in Indonesia, the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and various foiled attacks. He was charged in February 2008 with war crimes and murder by a U.S. military commission and faces the death penalty if convicted.
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Re: Do we care how bin Laden died

Post by Rorschach » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:48 pm

I was not aware that bin Laden just funded it. I knew he funded it but I thought he had a greater hand in it. I understand he would issues directives for things to happen that others would plan and execute the details. I would expect an underling to look after the details. He would have approved 9/11 as the "General" in charge I assumed.

I recall an early video where bin Laden took responsibility on behalf of his organisation.
Good grieff it's a terrorist organisation. Do you think it's a bank?
How is the funder not responsible? Even if that is all you think he was and how a terrorist organisation works. lol.

We all know he didn't do it fer Chris'sake otherwise he'd be dead along with the rest of the schmucks who flew into the buildings.

He was the head of the Organisation... the head of the TERRORIST organisation which planned and flew 2 aircraft into 2 skyscrapers killing thousands of people and a third aircraft which killed everyone on board and a fourth which hit the Pentagon.

It's an organisation for Pete's sake not a one man show. he trains people or has them trained he gets bombs built and people get dead because of the people in the organisation he heads, because of operations he sanctions.. Now you are saying... oh my goodness he only funded it it isn't really his fault. Well that takes the cake.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was a member of Osama bin Laden's terrorist group al-Qaeda organization, although he lived in Afghanistan, heading al-Qaeda's propaganda operations from sometime around 1999.
Gee imagine that there was more than one person (OBL) in Al Qaeda.

One more time... OBL explained that they did not expect the complete damage that occurred to the twin towers. mind you he wasn't disappointed or unhappy about it. None-the-less he sanctioned and as you like to put it, financed the terrorist action, known as 9/11, through his group Al Qaeda

Point of law... if you hire someone to kill someone for you, apart from soliciting a crime, you are also guilty of it in the eyes of the LAW.

Good grief, you people are unbelievable.
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