Why did labor lose ?

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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Post by Black Orchid » Mon May 20, 2019 2:12 pm

Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 2:06 pm
What an absolute joke Brian.

I’m not sure if you’ve noticed - but you are on your own in regards to this - it is YOU who is out of step.

Labor right of centre?

Oh Pahleaseee :roll:
Spot on! Am wondering who this 'we' is. :rofl

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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Post by Black Orchid » Mon May 20, 2019 2:13 pm

Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 2:11 pm
Even Labor Politicians believe they have gone too far left.

They need to ditch the GREENs and go it alone.
As Labor prepares to replace Bill Shorten in the wake of the party’s shock election loss, an unlikely contender is considering entering the race.

Hunter representative Joel Fitzgibbon, who hung onto his seat despite a 10 per cent swing, said he was not prepared to rule out running for the leadership if Labor didn’t match his concerns about representing the regions and its working class base.

The Labor must reconnect with its blue-collar base and get back to the centre, and be less ambitious in its pace of change,” Mr Fitzgibbon told ABC radio this morning.

“People are inherently conservative in Australia and any change has to be orderly and steady, and needs to be explained to people.

“We need to stick to the sensible centre and push reform in an incremental way and in an orderly way and properly explain why change is necessary to people. You’ve got to be able to take people with you.”
https://www.news.com.au/national/federa ... 8c1c071953
Yes I posted about Fitzgibbon elsewhere.

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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Post by The Reboot » Mon May 20, 2019 2:24 pm

Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 2:06 pm
What an absolute joke Brian.

I’m not sure if you’ve noticed - but you are on your own in regards to this - it is YOU who is out of step.

Labor right of centre?

Oh Pahleaseee :roll:
Dr Google told him :rofl

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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Post by sprintcyclist » Mon May 20, 2019 2:39 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 2:13 pm
Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 2:11 pm
Even Labor Politicians believe they have gone too far left.

They need to ditch the GREENs and go it alone.
As Labor prepares to replace Bill Shorten in the wake of the party’s shock election loss, an unlikely contender is considering entering the race.

Hunter representative Joel Fitzgibbon, who hung onto his seat despite a 10 per cent swing, said he was not prepared to rule out running for the leadership if Labor didn’t match his concerns about representing the regions and its working class base.

The Labor must reconnect with its blue-collar base and get back to the centre, and be less ambitious in its pace of change,” Mr Fitzgibbon told ABC radio this morning.

“People are inherently conservative in Australia and any change has to be orderly and steady, and needs to be explained to people.

“We need to stick to the sensible centre and push reform in an incremental way and in an orderly way and properly explain why change is necessary to people. You’ve got to be able to take people with you.”
https://www.news.com.au/national/federa ... 8c1c071953
Yes I posted about Fitzgibbon elsewhere.
labor has been more interested with the lgbiqa crew for well over a decade.
Add that to the extreme positions taken elsewhere, they should be retired
Right Wing is the Natural Progression.

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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Post by brian ross » Mon May 20, 2019 3:29 pm

Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 8:30 am
brian ross wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 9:30 pm
Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 9:17 pm
Overseas News outlets are Laughing at the Labour (Labor) FAR LEFT Party - Can't believe they got so close to being elected!
THUNDER DOWN UNDER: Far Left Labour Party SUFFERS SHOCKING LOSS in Australia After Holding Several Point Lead in Polls

The conservatives (named the Liberal party) in Australia pulled off a stunning upset in the national elections on Saturday.


The Liberal party is leading with 74 seats and the far left Labour party won on 65 seats.

The Labour party was ahead by 8 points in the polls.

Just like in the United States the media was hurt the most.

The far left Labour Party ran on getting rid of coal and skyrocketing energy costs.

The exit polls showed Labour party with a lead.

They got shellacked.
"Far left" Labor Party? Really?
Sure could have fooled me, mate. Typical for America media to get it wrong, hey? :roll: :roll:
Yes really :roll:

The Labor party as it stands today is far far left of the traditional values it once had - they know they can't win an election without the GREENS and thus have to take on their policies in grubby backroom deals.

IT makes me sick that the Fake New Media hasn't called this out.

Shutting down our coal energy networks across Australia making energy prices skyrocket

Shutting down Industry

FORCING everyone to drive stupid expensive electric cars

TAX TAX TAX AND MORE TAXES.

Radical Socialist agendas - Forcing kids to become Trannys

more Taxes taken off those who have worked their guts out for a better life and a few bucks only to have it stolen

another 35 Billion theft of our Superannuations

Billions stolen from our savings in shares

and the list goes on.

The only trouble with Socialism is that it collapses when you run out of other peoples money that you have stolen.

and yes

all of ht above is FAR LEFT Radical Socialism of the Labor/Greens coalition.
Mmme, appears you live in a different universe compared to the rest of us, Serial. Personally, I'd have suggested that the ALP was more to the right of centre than to the far left. Perhaps your viewpoint has shifted far to the right, so far in fact that you've lost sight of where the centre actually is. Perhaps you've been reading far too many American or even Bolter websites? :roll:

As for me being "out of step", yes, I suppose I am. I have remained in the one position, slightly left of centre while the rest of you have progressively moved further and further to the right (and that includes the ALP). My views are still the same as they always have been - the greatest good for the greatest number, medical care is a right, not a privilege, just as education is as well. Sexuality is a person's own business - the Government should not be in adult peoples' bedrooms. Unions are necessary to counter the power of the bosses. Big corporations and rich individuals should pay their fair share of tax. The environment is super important and Climate Change is occurring and needs to be addressed. My views are moderate, not extreme. You are the extreme, Serial. :roll: :roll:
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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Post by Black Orchid » Mon May 20, 2019 3:41 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 3:29 pm
Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 8:30 am
brian ross wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 9:30 pm
Serial Brain 9 wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 9:17 pm
Overseas News outlets are Laughing at the Labour (Labor) FAR LEFT Party - Can't believe they got so close to being elected!
THUNDER DOWN UNDER: Far Left Labour Party SUFFERS SHOCKING LOSS in Australia After Holding Several Point Lead in Polls

The conservatives (named the Liberal party) in Australia pulled off a stunning upset in the national elections on Saturday.


The Liberal party is leading with 74 seats and the far left Labour party won on 65 seats.

The Labour party was ahead by 8 points in the polls.

Just like in the United States the media was hurt the most.

The far left Labour Party ran on getting rid of coal and skyrocketing energy costs.

The exit polls showed Labour party with a lead.

They got shellacked.
"Far left" Labor Party? Really?
Sure could have fooled me, mate. Typical for America media to get it wrong, hey? :roll: :roll:
Yes really :roll:

The Labor party as it stands today is far far left of the traditional values it once had - they know they can't win an election without the GREENS and thus have to take on their policies in grubby backroom deals.

IT makes me sick that the Fake New Media hasn't called this out.

Shutting down our coal energy networks across Australia making energy prices skyrocket

Shutting down Industry

FORCING everyone to drive stupid expensive electric cars

TAX TAX TAX AND MORE TAXES.

Radical Socialist agendas - Forcing kids to become Trannys

more Taxes taken off those who have worked their guts out for a better life and a few bucks only to have it stolen

another 35 Billion theft of our Superannuations

Billions stolen from our savings in shares

and the list goes on.

The only trouble with Socialism is that it collapses when you run out of other peoples money that you have stolen.

and yes

all of ht above is FAR LEFT Radical Socialism of the Labor/Greens coalition.
Mmme, appears you live in a different universe compared to the rest of us, Serial. Personally, I'd have suggested that the ALP was more to the right of centre than to the far left. Perhaps your viewpoint has shifted far to the right, so far in fact that you've lost sight of where the centre actually is. Perhaps you've been reading far too many American or even Bolter websites? :roll:

As for me being "out of step", yes, I suppose I am. I have remained in the one position, slightly left of centre while the rest of you have progressively moved further and further to the right (and that includes the ALP). My views are still the same as they always have been - the greatest good for the greatest number, medical care is a right, not a privilege, just as education is as well. Sexuality is a person's own business - the Government should not be in adult peoples' bedrooms. Unions are necessary to counter the power of the bosses. Big corporations and rich individuals should pay their fair share of tax. The environment is super important and Climate Change is occurring and needs to be addressed. My views are moderate, not extreme. You are the extreme, Serial. :roll: :roll:
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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Post by Serial Brain 9 » Mon May 20, 2019 8:19 pm

Another abusing leftist commentator
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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Post by Black Orchid » Mon May 20, 2019 8:22 pm

She got a lot of uncomplimentary responses to that and then deleted it and whinged. Apparently she was drunk :roll:

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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Post by The Reboot » Mon May 20, 2019 8:24 pm

I've never bought the drunk card. Like they say, the truth comes out when you're pissed. You're only telling it how it really is in your mind.

Social media is the kryptonite of any "high profile" individual.

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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Post by Serial Brain 9 » Mon May 20, 2019 8:25 pm

Brian - you are delusional.

Conservatives have never changed - its only the insane leftist who has pushed further and further to the left with one idiotic idea after another.

Conservatives haven't changed and/or asked anyone else to change.

The left on the other hand are non stop pushing "their" agendas down everyones throats from Global Warming, shutting down coal fired power stations and mines, homo marriage to Trannys you name it. Pushing sick radical sexual perversion into school children classrooms and into their toilets.

It never stops and you leftwing nutcases will never stop pushing.

Just **** off and leave everyone alone. :evil:

...............

BTW - Climate Changes - it always has and always will.

Dur. Thats what Climate does :roll:
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