I hope to see a country where Dinosaurs like you are finally extinct, Bobby.Bobby wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:01 pmI hope to see a country where apologists and progressives like you are forcedbrian ross wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:59 pmI refuse. I will not satisfy your atavistic blood lust, Bobby.
to hang the enemies of our society.
The Death Penalty should be reintroduced.
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brian ross wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:12 pmI hope to see a country where Dinosaurs like you are finally extinct, Bobby.Bobby wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:01 pmI hope to see a country where apologists and progressives like you are forcedbrian ross wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:59 pmI refuse. I will not satisfy your atavistic blood lust, Bobby.
to hang the enemies of our society.
dear Brian,
when you hang a man you better look at him.
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Bobby wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:26 pmbrian ross wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:12 pmI hope to see a country where Dinosaurs like you are finally extinct, Bobby.Bobby wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:01 pmI hope to see a country where apologists and progressives like you are forcedbrian ross wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2019 12:59 pmI refuse. I will not satisfy your atavistic blood lust, Bobby.
to hang the enemies of our society.
dear Brian,
when you hang a man you better look at him.
Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. - Eric Blair
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In 2009, five young Australians died from Ecstasy overdoses. Their ages ranged from teenagers to early twenties. Our kids. Our hopes for the future.
In 2007, the port of Melbourne became the location of the world's largest ecstasy drug bust when 1.2 tonnes were seized in a shipping container. Several men from the Calabrian mafia, which Australia had imported through our idiotic immigration program, were arrested, charged, and convicted. The men were from notorious imported mafia crime families, well known to police. This fact supports the already well known scientific knowledge that there is a genetic link to criminal behaviour. The men were sentenced to various prison terms, the principle offenders having long prison sentences imposed.
Did this stop the crime families? No. In 2007 they tried again and failed again. In that year came the world's next largest ecstasy haul which was almost four times the first. This time, 4.4 tonnes were seized from another shipping container. This time, almost two dozen Calabria mafia from the same notorious imported crime families were arrested and convicted. Obviously, long prison sentences do not deter serious criminals in the least.
The only people dying from the ecstasy importation business are our Australian kids. Had the principles of the first importation been convicted and speedily executed, that would have been an object lesson to the other crime families. It would also have genetically eradicated the crime prone genomes of the worst imported offenders in Australian society.
Does the death penalty moderate behaviour? The mafia thinks it does, as they routinely murder business rivals and police informers themselves.
After executing the principles of the first importation, and then executing the principles of the second importation, that would have sent a strong message to Australia's imported criminals to stop importing drugs. Or, just like the Australian kids who die, year after year, they will be pushing up daisies too.
The Calabrian mafia, who Brian Ross wanted imported into Australia on the grounds of "diversity", do not agree with Brian Ross's assertion that killing people does not moderate behaviour. But they do agree with Brian that this method should not apply to them.
In 2007, the port of Melbourne became the location of the world's largest ecstasy drug bust when 1.2 tonnes were seized in a shipping container. Several men from the Calabrian mafia, which Australia had imported through our idiotic immigration program, were arrested, charged, and convicted. The men were from notorious imported mafia crime families, well known to police. This fact supports the already well known scientific knowledge that there is a genetic link to criminal behaviour. The men were sentenced to various prison terms, the principle offenders having long prison sentences imposed.
Did this stop the crime families? No. In 2007 they tried again and failed again. In that year came the world's next largest ecstasy haul which was almost four times the first. This time, 4.4 tonnes were seized from another shipping container. This time, almost two dozen Calabria mafia from the same notorious imported crime families were arrested and convicted. Obviously, long prison sentences do not deter serious criminals in the least.
The only people dying from the ecstasy importation business are our Australian kids. Had the principles of the first importation been convicted and speedily executed, that would have been an object lesson to the other crime families. It would also have genetically eradicated the crime prone genomes of the worst imported offenders in Australian society.
Does the death penalty moderate behaviour? The mafia thinks it does, as they routinely murder business rivals and police informers themselves.
After executing the principles of the first importation, and then executing the principles of the second importation, that would have sent a strong message to Australia's imported criminals to stop importing drugs. Or, just like the Australian kids who die, year after year, they will be pushing up daisies too.
The Calabrian mafia, who Brian Ross wanted imported into Australia on the grounds of "diversity", do not agree with Brian Ross's assertion that killing people does not moderate behaviour. But they do agree with Brian that this method should not apply to them.
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My first and only experience with ecstasy was back in the 80s when X was legal. I was out drinking with my buddies and we met some girls and they had ecstasy. I've still never done a drug in my life except alcohol. This girl had too much X in her and she was freaking out. She was shaking and sweating and breathing hard. She looked pretty pathetic and that was the last time I ever saw anybody do X. No thanks.
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"BAppelbaum, P., &, Scurich, N., Behavioral Genetics in Criminal Court," , Nature Human Behaviour suggests that extreme care should be exercised in trying to use Genetics in determining criminal behaviour, Bogan. However, such a scientific paper is more than likely beyond your superficial, tabloid understanding of scientific matters.
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Brian, I am holding in my hot little hand, right now, a copy of the Australian Institute of Criminology's own publication, "Trends and Issues", no. 263. "Is there a Genetic susceptibility to Engage in Criminal Acts?"
The conclusion? YES.
The conclusion? YES.
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Really? Perhaps you need to read it more carefully, Bogan. Afterall it claims:
[Source]Recent twin studies show persuasive evidence that both genetic and environmental factors contribute to antisocial behaviour. However the genetic evidence indicates that there is no single gene, or even a small number of genes, that predict an increased risk of antisocial behaviour.Where there have been some effects the increase in risk associated with antisocial behaviour is modest.
Which concurs with Appelbaum and Scurich's article:
[Source]Evidence for a link between gene variants and criminal behavior has been tenuous. For example, low activity in the MAOA gene, found on the X chromosome, added to a history of childhood maltreatment, has been associated with an increased number of convictions for violent crime. However, the relationship between the gene's activity, environmental factors, and criminal behavior is unclear.
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dear Brian,
what's boring about a hanging?
It could be on prime time TV -
even the kids could get to watch it.
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The AIC report on the link to genetics and crime said this.
The second part of the quote said this....
Brian, you highlighted that part of the report which was irrelevant and ignored the preceding sentence which was the important part. The first sentence said....Recent twin studies show persuasive evidence that both genetic and environmental factors contribute to antisocial behaviour. However the genetic evidence indicates that there is no single gene, or even a small number of genes, that predict an increased risk of antisocial behaviour.Where there have been some effects the increase in risk associated with antisocial behaviour is modest.
Got that? Of course you got it. You just hoped I was stupid enough to not figure out what you had done. Sorry to disappoint you.Recent twin studies show persuasive evidence that both genetic and environmental factors contribute to antisocial behaviour.
The second part of the quote said this....
There may not be a single identifiable gene associated with criminal behaviour, or even a small number of identifiable genes that scientists can point to in any person's genome, and make a prediction of criminal behaviour. But the important thing is that criminologists know that there is there is a genetic link to criminal behaviour, even if geneticists can not isolate the genes or identify them. Here is the authors of the report saying just that.However the genetic evidence indicates that there is no single gene, or even a small number of genes, that predict an increased risk of antisocial behaviour.Where there have been some effects the increase in risk associated with antisocial behaviour is modest.
Here are some other bits from the AIC report that you wanted to hide from our readers with your selective quote.This review of genetic research on anti social behaviour has summarized growing evidence for a genetic contribution to anti social behaviour, but it has also indicated that it is highly unlikely that variants of a single gene will be found that very substantially increase the risk of engaging in criminal behaviour. Instead, it is much more likely that a large number of genetic variants will be identified, that, in the presence of the necessary environmental facors, will increase the likelihood that some individuals develop behavioral traits that will make them more likely to engage in criminal activities.
Antisocial behaviour often clusters within families, suggesting that both inherited genetic factors and family environment are risk factors for this behaviour.
They found that although genetic background has a strong influence on whether an individual will engage in antisocial behaviour, the influence of environmental factors is even stronger.
Candidate genes are specific genes that are thought to contribute to an increased risk of engaging in antisocial behaviour. They are usually selected on the basis of information about the brain-related bases of behaviour and personality traits
The inconclusive results from studies of individual candidate genes for antisocial behaviour reflect the fact that these behaviours are likely to be influenced by the interaction of multiple genes.
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