Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister

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Re: Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:48 pm

Don’t change what is in a supposed direct quote Mattus or you are no more than IQ and his agrarian rants.

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Re: Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister

Post by IQS.RLOW » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:54 pm

It was more truthful than the original

You must be in tears watching your beloved party tearing itself apart from inside its own bowel
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Re: Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister

Post by Mattus » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:00 pm

freediver wrote:I wouldn't go that far. Most would get a raise. These people are the best in the country at what they do and the skills are easily transferable to many parts of the private sector.
Yeah. Maybe Rob Mitchell can be CEO of BHP.

Backbenchers are scared of losing their seats, and will support the person most likely to deliver an election victory. Winning is all that matters in politics. It is everything.
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Re: Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister

Post by Mattus » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:02 pm

Jovial Monk wrote:Don’t change what is in a supposed direct quote Mattus or you are no more than IQ and his agrarian rants.

No problem time I'll put "FIXT 4 U LOL" in the body shall I?
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Re: Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:04 pm

About 2/3 of both parties are lawyers who could make more money in private enterprise than they make as backbencher or Cabinet Minister or even as PM.

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Re: Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister

Post by IQS.RLOW » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:05 pm

Bullshit

Those that can do. Those that can't join the labor party
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Re: Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister

Post by Mattus » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:06 pm

Mattus wrote: Backbenchers are scared of losing their seats, and will support the person most likely to deliver an election victory. Winning is all that matters in politics. It is everything.
The thing is, Rudd doesn't even need to win this ballot to achieve what he has set out to. Unless Julia storms home with 90% of the vote, this issue is not over. On the other hand, if the caucus vote shows Jules does not have the backing of a third of her own party, well, she'll need more than positive thinking and chemo to survive to October.
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Re: Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister

Post by Mattus » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:20 pm

Jovial Monk wrote:About 2/3 of both parties are lawyers who could make more money in private enterprise than they make as backbencher or Cabinet Minister or even as PM.
Myth!

Zappia - back to working in a fitness centre when he loses his seat.
Wyatt - primary school teacher
Windsor - Broke ass farmer
Wilkie - Broke ass writer, ex soldier
Washer - Country GP
Vamvakinou - Highschool teacher
Van Mannan - Bank teller
Vasta - Business development manager
Truss - broke ass farmer
Tehan - Farm hand.
Symon - Sparky
Snowdon - Teacher

Jesus fuck I'm tired of this game already, but not one of these people would attract a $141k base salary (well maybe the TAFE graduate Symon... ) and another hundred k or more in electorate / travel benefits. Not everyone on the back bench is Mal fucking Turnbull.
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Re: Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister

Post by Jovial Monk » Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:45 pm

Jovial Monk wrote:The election is not till Oct last year—unless Rudd is elected PM. Which he won’t be, thankfully.

Rudd couldn’t get the ETS passed. Despite running a minority govt Gillard did!
Woops, October NEXT year.

Or April this year if Rudd stands and defeats Gillard.

I guess he felt he had to do it now, before a healthy surplus was brought down in May. Also, the ACCC has all the info and the rewritten draft of the Telstra document and the NBN gets rolled out big time—in a few months the polling would be very different and Rudd couldn’t pose as savior.

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Re: Rudd resigns as Foreign Minister

Post by freediver » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:36 pm

Internal polling showed that the mandate was an illusion because the population got informed...
LOL
Green in the HOR only got in on lib preferences
They got in because they won the election.
Mattus wrote:
Jovial Monk wrote:About 2/3 of both parties are lawyers who could make more money in private enterprise than they make as backbencher or Cabinet Minister or even as PM.
Myth!

Zappia - back to working in a fitness centre when he loses his seat.
Wyatt - primary school teacher
Windsor - Broke ass farmer
Wilkie - Broke ass writer, ex soldier
Washer - Country GP
Vamvakinou - Highschool teacher
Van Mannan - Bank teller
Vasta - Business development manager
Truss - broke ass farmer
Tehan - Farm hand.
Symon - Sparky
Snowdon - Teacher

Jesus fuck I'm tired of this game already, but not one of these people would attract a $141k base salary (well maybe the TAFE graduate Symon... ) and another hundred k or more in electorate / travel benefits. Not everyone on the back bench is Mal fucking Turnbull.
That would not make a very impressive CV, unless you also put MP on it. Then it would be impressive.

The country GP could probably go back to his old line of work and make more money. The rest would have to get new jobs. The ex teachers would easily get a better paying job in the education department.

Perhaps instead of proving your point with more wild speculation, you could simply look at the countless cases where this has happened before. It is not like it's hard to find.

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