Five Eyes Expose China's CV Coverup

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Five Eyes Expose China's CV Coverup

Post by Black Orchid » Sun May 03, 2020 9:37 pm

A research dossier compiled by the so-called “Five Eyes” intelligence alliance, that reportedly concludes China intentionally hid or destroyed evidence of the coronavirus pandemic, is consistent with U.S. findings about the origins of the outbreak so far, senior U.S. officials told Fox News on Saturday.

The 15-page document from the intelligence agencies of the U.S., Canada, the U.K., Australia and New Zealand, was obtained by Australia's Saturday Telegraph newspaper and finds that China's secrecy amounted to an “assault on international transparency."


The dossier, which is likely to further increase pressure on the Chinese government to explain its actions and early statements, points to the initial denial by the government that the virus could be transmitted between humans, the silencing of doctors, destruction of evidence, and a refusal to provide samples to scientists working on a vaccine.

While U.S. intelligence is not confirming the existence of the 15-page document, a senior official told Fox that reports of the document aligns with U.S. intelligence that China knew the spread between humans earlier than it said, that it knew it was a novel coronavirus earlier than it said and that it was spread wider than they reported to the international community in the first weeks of the outbreak.

But there are some exceptions. In particular, Australia believes the virus originated in a wet market, as the Chinese have claimed. However, the U.S. intelligence community has not yet determined this and is still leaning away from that theory.

Fox News first reported last month that there is increasing confidence from U.S. officials that the virus likely escaped from the lab in Wuhan, where the naturally-occurring strain was being studied not as a bioweapon but as part of a Chinese effort to show that its efforts to identify and combat viruses are equal to or greater than those of the U.S. This would be at odds with claims the outbreak originated at a nearby wet market. The U.S. is investigating the matter.

President Trump said Thursday that he's seen evidence suggesting the virus came from a lab after Fox News and others asked if he knew of anything that gave him confidence that the outbreak originated in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

A senior intelligence source told Fox News on Saturday that most, as many as 70-75 percent, of the 17 U.S. intelligence agencies believe it came from a laboratory but the remaining agencies cannot yet agree as there is not a “smoking gun.”

The source said that the agencies have come down to two potential origins for the accident - animal-human transmission, or a mistake in the lab, but there is evidence of both options with most leaning toward the laboratory explanation -- although both scenarios are attributable to mistakes.

The source told Fox that the reports show "how duplicitous the Chinese have been" in regard to information about the origins and spread of the virus and that "the impact of their secrecy has really shaken our allies."

“Everyone is furious with the Chinese,” the source said.

Meanwhile, no public evidence has yet been presented to definitively point to the lab scenario, and Defense sources who have spoken to Fox News say it is being viewed as simply one of two theories about how the outbreak began.


The new “Five Eyes” dossier finds that China began censoring news of the virus on search engines and social media beginning Dec. 31, deleting terms including “SARS variation," “Wuhan Seafood market” and “Wuhan Unknown Pneumonia.”

Three days later, on Jan. 3, China’s National Health Commission ordered virus samples to be either moved to designated testing facilities or destroyed, while simultaneously issuing a "no-publication order" related to the disease.


The Saturday Telegraph report includes a timeline of Chinese obfuscation. On Jan. 5, for example, Wuhan's Municipal Health Commission stopped releasing daily updates on the number of new cases and would not resume them for 13 days. On Jan. 10, Wang Guanga, a respiratory specialist at Peking University First Hospital who had been investigating the outbreak, said it was "under control" and largely a "mild condition." (Wang himself would disclose 12 days later that he had been infected with the virus.)

Two days later, on Jan. 12, a Shanghai professor's lab was closed down after it shared data on the virus' genetic sequence with the outside world. On Jan. 24, Chinese officials stopped the Wuhan Institute of Virology from sharing virus samples with a lab at the University of Texas.


The dossier also concludes that Chinese authorities denied that the virus could be spread between humans until Jan. 20, "despite evidence of human-human transmission from early December."

The file is similarly critical about the World Health Organization (WHO), stating that it toed the Chinese line about human-to-human transmission despite the fact that "officials in Taiwan raised concerns as early as December 31, as did experts in Hong Kong on January 4.”

Fox News reported last month that the WHO -- which President Trump paused funding to last month over its role in the crisis -- was either complicit in the coverup, or looked the other way. The WHO and China have denied any wrongdoing.

The dossier goes on to state that throughout February, "Beijing [pressed] the U.S., Italy, India, Australia, Southeast Asian neighbours [sic] and others not to protect themselves via travel restrictions, even as [China] impose[d] severe restrictions at home."

At the same time, the file states: "Millions of people [left] Wuhan after the outbreak and before Beijing lock[ed] down the city on January 23."


On Friday, WHO officials said that it was assured that the virus is “natural in origin."

“We have listened again and again to numerous scientists who have looked at the sequence and looked at the virus and we are assured that this virus is natural in origin,” Dr. Michael Ryan, executive director of WHO’s Health Emergencies Program, said at a press conference when asked about the virus’ origins.

“What is important is that we establish what that natural host for this virus is, and the primary purpose of doing that is to ensure we understand the virus more, we understand the animal-human interface and we understand how the animal-human species barrier was breached,” he said.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/five-e ... s-findings

YAY China! :roll:

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Re: Five Eyes Expose China's CV Coverup

Post by northofnorth » Mon May 04, 2020 6:48 am

1. I do not believe that the virus was engineered at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and then unleashed on the citizens of Wuhan by the CCP. It doesn't add up... If they had engineered a bio-weapon like that, they'd (a) need a vaccine to protect themselves and (b) they'd be much more likely to have released it in some remote western Muslim province of China (given how much the CCP despise them)...

2. It is possible that lax bio-security at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where they were studying bat corona viruses, caused a human infection that went unnoticed until December 2019... (Why study viruses in bats? Because they are often carriers of corona viruses but seldom are affected by them)...

3. It is possible that it came from bats, then pangolins, then humans via a wet market...

The only thing that makes me tend towards point 2 above is that the CCP (albeit begrudgingly) acknowledges point 3 as the sole source of the virus...

Why is the CCP so certain the virus originated from a wet market in Wuhan? These kinds of corona viruses usually erupt in the south... Not in Wuhan, as China's own so-called 'Bat Woman' ( Shi Zhengli) attests...

And why did Huang Yan Ling, a researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (thought to be patient zero for the global pandemic), mysteriously disappear with her biography deleted from the lab's website?

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Re: Five Eyes Expose China's CV Coverup

Post by Black Orchid » Mon May 04, 2020 11:22 am

northofnorth wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 6:48 am
1. I do not believe that the virus was engineered at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and then unleashed on the citizens of Wuhan by the CCP. It doesn't add up... If they had engineered a bio-weapon like that, they'd (a) need a vaccine to protect themselves and (b) they'd be much more likely to have released it in some remote western Muslim province of China (given how much the CCP despise them)...

2. It is possible that lax bio-security at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where they were studying bat corona viruses, caused a human infection that went unnoticed until December 2019... (Why study viruses in bats? Because they are often carriers of corona viruses but seldom are affected by them)...

3. It is possible that it came from bats, then pangolins, then humans via a wet market...

The only thing that makes me tend towards point 2 above is that the CCP (albeit begrudgingly) acknowledges point 3 as the sole source of the virus...

Why is the CCP so certain the virus originated from a wet market in Wuhan? These kinds of corona viruses usually erupt in the south... Not in Wuhan, as China's own so-called 'Bat Woman' ( Shi Zhengli) attests...

And why did Huang Yan Ling, a researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (thought to be patient zero for the global pandemic), mysteriously disappear with her biography deleted from the lab's website?
I lean with #2. Shi Zhengli even said she was worried about it escaping from her lab and now she appears to have disappeared. She gave the warning a year ago about an outbreak. There are recent reports that she escaped from China and took hundreds of confidential documents to the U.S. embassy in Paris. She has since purportedly denied this but only through WeChat. No-one seems to have actually seen her.

Where is Huang Yabn Ling? Patient zero? She hasn't been seen since the outbreak even though the lab is saying she is alive and well.

Where is Zhou Peng the Bio-Weapon Scientist that Australia partly funded alongside Shi Zhengli? He's silent now too.

People are mysteriously disappearing.

If it did come from the lab accidentally, and I believe it did, China would be a lot better off right now if they admitted whatever mistake was made and told the world, accepted the help of the US in the early days and did not try to cover it up by laying blame elsewhere.

They didn't do that though and can suffer the consequences.

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Re: Five Eyes Expose China's CV Coverup

Post by Black Orchid » Mon May 04, 2020 11:31 am

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Sunday said "enormous evidence" showed the new coronavirus originated in a lab in China, further fueling tensions with Beijing over its handling of the outbreak.

China denies the claims and even the US Director of National Intelligence office has said analysts are still examining the exact origin of the outbreak.

Mr Pompeo, a former CIA chief, told the ABC he agreed with a statement from the US intelligence community about the "wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not man-made or genetically modified."

But Mr Pompeo went further than Mr Trump, citing "significant" and "enormous" evidence that the virus originated in a Wuhan lab.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/mike-pompeo ... hinese-lab

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Re: Five Eyes Expose China's CV Coverup

Post by Bobby » Mon May 04, 2020 11:33 am

You can't trust the Chinese.
I bet they've even killed people who know too much.

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Re: Five Eyes Expose China's CV Coverup

Post by brian ross » Mon May 04, 2020 1:04 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 11:31 am
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Sunday said "enormous evidence" showed the new coronavirus originated in a lab in China, further fueling tensions with Beijing over its handling of the outbreak.

China denies the claims and even the US Director of National Intelligence office has said analysts are still examining the exact origin of the outbreak.

Mr Pompeo, a former CIA chief, told the ABC he agreed with a statement from the US intelligence community about the "wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not man-made or genetically modified."

But Mr Pompeo went further than Mr Trump, citing "significant" and "enormous" evidence that the virus originated in a Wuhan lab.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/mike-pompeo ... hinese-lab
Funny how a later news report contradicts that one, Black Orchid.
Mr Pompeo then briefly contradicted a statement issued last Thursday by the top US spy agency that said the virus did not appear to be man-made or genetically modified. That statement undercut conspiracy theories promoted by anti-China activists and some supporters of President Donald Trump who suggest it was developed in a Chinese government biological weapons laboratory.
[Source]

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Re: Five Eyes Expose China's CV Coverup

Post by Black Orchid » Mon May 04, 2020 1:19 pm

brian ross wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 1:04 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 11:31 am
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Sunday said "enormous evidence" showed the new coronavirus originated in a lab in China, further fueling tensions with Beijing over its handling of the outbreak.

China denies the claims and even the US Director of National Intelligence office has said analysts are still examining the exact origin of the outbreak.

Mr Pompeo, a former CIA chief, told the ABC he agreed with a statement from the US intelligence community about the "wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not man-made or genetically modified."

But Mr Pompeo went further than Mr Trump, citing "significant" and "enormous" evidence that the virus originated in a Wuhan lab.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/mike-pompeo ... hinese-lab
Funny how a later news report contradicts that one, Black Orchid.
Mr Pompeo then briefly contradicted a statement issued last Thursday by the top US spy agency that said the virus did not appear to be man-made or genetically modified. That statement undercut conspiracy theories promoted by anti-China activists and some supporters of President Donald Trump who suggest it was developed in a Chinese government biological weapons laboratory.
[Source]

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Did you even read what I quoted Brian?

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Re: Five Eyes Expose China's CV Coverup

Post by brian ross » Mon May 04, 2020 1:25 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 1:19 pm
brian ross wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 1:04 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 11:31 am
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Sunday said "enormous evidence" showed the new coronavirus originated in a lab in China, further fueling tensions with Beijing over its handling of the outbreak.

China denies the claims and even the US Director of National Intelligence office has said analysts are still examining the exact origin of the outbreak.

Mr Pompeo, a former CIA chief, told the ABC he agreed with a statement from the US intelligence community about the "wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not man-made or genetically modified."

But Mr Pompeo went further than Mr Trump, citing "significant" and "enormous" evidence that the virus originated in a Wuhan lab.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/mike-pompeo ... hinese-lab
Funny how a later news report contradicts that one, Black Orchid.
Mr Pompeo then briefly contradicted a statement issued last Thursday by the top US spy agency that said the virus did not appear to be man-made or genetically modified. That statement undercut conspiracy theories promoted by anti-China activists and some supporters of President Donald Trump who suggest it was developed in a Chinese government biological weapons laboratory.
[Source]

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Did you even read what I quoted Brian?
Yes. Do you read what I have said, Black Orchid? ::)
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Re: Five Eyes Expose China's CV Coverup

Post by Black Orchid » Mon May 04, 2020 1:36 pm

Nothing has been mentioned about the virus being man-made if that is what you are trying to allude to.

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Re: Five Eyes Expose China's CV Coverup

Post by northofnorth » Mon May 04, 2020 3:26 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 1:36 pm
Nothing has been mentioned about the virus being man-made if that is what you are trying to allude to.
Yes... Not genetically engineered... Its the 'cock-up' theory... Poor bis-security standards at the WIV caused an accidental infection(s) that went unnoticed until symptoms in the victim became apparent...

The CCP's first crime was to try to get away with it by covering it up and deflecting attention away from the lab to ... wherever... The US Military, then a fish market, then a wet market...

The first - (US military) ridiculous... The second and third? Likely, simply retracing patient 0's movements based on where she said she went each day after leaving the WIV...

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