Greens pro-nuclear now?

[mellie]

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/blogs/gems ... rpanel.txt

Gosh,

[boxy]

It may be confusing for you, Mel, but there have been environmentalists who support nuclear power for ages. There are a wide range of opinions out there... but I think you'll still find the "official" greens in Aus are still as rabid about nukes as ever, especially since the Tsunami last year.

[Bart]

You may have to explain that to Bobby Brown, as he doesn't know whether he's martha or arthur over any issue.

[mellie]

It may be confusing for you, Mel, but there have been environmentalists who support nuclear power for ages. There are a wide range of opinions out there... but I think you'll still find the "official" greens in Aus are still as rabid about nukes as ever, especially since the Tsunami last year.

That or there's been a fascist shift towards eco-capitalism, global governence and policy? Afterall, Marx himself noted that "capital abuses the soil as much as it exploits the worker,and the makings of ecological breakdown are thus inherent in capitalism."


One size government fit's all?

Autonomy, identity along with a sense of belonging and independence is crucial, if nothing else but to ensure we don't end up with the rough end of the stick due to our geographical isolation from the rest of the advanced economies who by the way will think nothing of 'taking' from the penal colonies in order to uphold their hierarchy, we Australians like to think we are up there with the big boys, afterall, Europe have been most obliging, we have had more royal visits in the last few years than we have had in a centenary,and Gillard has no sense of patriotism nor regard for our nations sovereignty, because she like Keating sees us as the asshole of the earth, a wish-wash of convict and immigrant working class.

See, pedigree is important to Gillard, and I'm not just referring to her exotic 'imported' Cavoodles blood lines.

There is something wrong with her, and there's something wrong with Bob Brown.

He was opposed to 'corporate' donations, well, this was until he drank from the same bubbler as Keating and Gillard.

[mantra]

You may have to explain that to Bobby Brown, as he doesn't know whether he's martha or arthur over any issue.

He has always been anti-nuclear and never changed his stance. Boxy is right - there are quite a few environmentalists who support nuclear energy, but they do not belong to the Greens.

[Mattus]

He has always been anti-nuclear and never changed his stance. Boxy is right - there are quite a few environmentalists who support nuclear energy, but they do not belong to the Greens.

Do you mean to say the Greens don't hold an absolute monopoly on environmental politics? Shocking.

[mellie]

You may have to explain that to Bobby Brown, as he doesn't know whether he's martha or arthur over any issue.

He has always been anti-nuclear and never changed his stance. Boxy is right - there are quite a few environmentalists who support nuclear energy, but they do not belong to the Greens.

Stewart Brand is an American writer, best known as editor of the "Whole Earth Catalogue". He founded a number of organizations including The WELL, the Global Business Network, and the Long Now Foundation. He is the author of several books, most recently "Whole Earth Discipline: An Eco-Pragmatist Manifesto".

Mantra, have you checked Bob Browns views on Stewart Brand, and the others listed in the Harvard print-off?

Stewart Brand was at RAPC Worthy Down between 1982 and 2010. Paul Brenton was at RAPC Worthy Down between 1989 and 2010. And our Senator Bob Brown was at RAPC Worthy Down between 1972 and 1978. In fact.

http://www.forcesreunited.org.uk/namear ... -Down.html

Now, why would a bunch of greeny environmentalists and foliage smoking academics be congregating at the Royal Army Pay Corps, , be seen socialising with something so ... New World Venture, for capitalist pursuits. But call it Carbon Tax, and peace keeping if you will.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Army_Pay_Corps

Labor have their Fabian ties, Liberals their Exclusive Brethren, and Greens, the fascist red corporate militant arm there of has their own thing going, this be the RAPC.

Its just, they didn't want you to know this.

I think it's clear, who's sniffing who's Brand.

Welcome to the eco-warmongering fascist militant Zionist arm of the Global Green eco-terrorists --- Bob brown slots in there nicely right next to all the other war lords.

What makes their process more sinister than any other not-so-public parties ties with assorted clubs, orgs etc?



We weren't supposed to know, until well after the fact.

[mellie]

So, next time you speak to Mr Senator, ask Senator Bob Brown if he was at RAPC Worthy Down between 1972 and 1978.

The Royal Army Pay Corps (RAPC) was a former corps of the British Army responsible for administering all financial matters. It was amalgamated into the Adjutant General's Corps in 1992.

I told you he was an Anglophile and a Europhile...Ask if he'll do an interview wearing his Royal Army Pay Corps Regimental Cap from Fruit of the Loom With The Army Pay Corps embroidered crest.

[mellie]

To close--

Now you know why they are gradually slipping their un-loved grass-roots greens supporters a length (who they already mock and berate) from behind, just realise they didn't just wake up one morning and think "Hmm after years of convincing our supporters we oppose nuclear energy, lets say it's a good idea afterall"

It's been the plan all along.

Now, does it not make sense that The Royal Army Pay Corps (RAPC) would be covert supporters of all things nuclear?


http://www.forcesreunited.org.uk/namear ... entre.html

He along with other RAPC members are still active within the Australian Greens party today, and abroad.

See they were members of this same 'unit' computer centre.

Odd, this 'credential' is not mentioned on Bob Browns wiki page.

[mellie]

How about a cryptic...


Senator Bob Brown arranged CRAP party to serve dark royals (4)

http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Women%27s_Royal_Army_Corps

Unbeknown to so many pro-republicans who see our becoming such a means to get rid of the old battleaxe and become an independent nation, we will effectively be marching ourselves into their cauldron, because this archaic constitution of ours at least protects what's left of our sovereignty from outsiders coming in for the take.

Queen Elizabeth would like very much for us to become a republic, hence she appointed republican power-couple Quentin Bryce as GG, and her architect husband Michael Bryce, the Ausflag judge panellist, who gets to decide what our new Australian flag will be once they get their wick in and convince twits to vote republic.
As a direct election republican model is a proposal for the Australian constitutional reform.


When this happens, Bill Shorten and Malcolm Turnbull will be among Australians first Presidential candidates.. probably the only candidates if they can help it.
Naturally, it will be Shorten, and like most republics, they like to keep the 'precious' in the family, so there will be no more "When I grow up I want to be Prime minister" rather this position will have already been filled or at least earmarked by those in a position to spend millions funding their own campaigns ands grooming their off-spring for the precious.

I wonder if Indigenous Australians know that in supporting the Greens, they are unwittingly voting for the enemy within, The Royal Army Pay Corps (RAPC) and the British royal family to finish the job they started?

Its quite sad, the very thing that invaded their country 200 years ago gave us the constitution with is the only thing stopping their being exploited again.


See, Labor needs Greens, and Greens need Labor to help meet a long-term mutual objective.

A republic is far more important to them than the carbon-tax.