Are we heading for war with China?

[Black Orchid]

Brian loses the debate in the Defense forum MRB
and locks the thread.
Coward.

Wrong, like so much, Bobby.

Brian,

This thread has, IMO run it's course. I will be locking it.

I did not "lose" the debate. I locked it because it was going round and round with endless repetitions of the same bullshit. QED.

Free speech Brian. If you shut down conversations just because you don't like or agree with them well you know how that turns out from experience right?

It doesn't really matter where the topic goes it's not your role to shut it down unless it's extremely abusive. You need to kerb that hard wired leftist brain mechanism that drives you to be in control at any expense.

[The4thEstate]

Typical journalistic response. Accuracy is always important, 4E.

Dang, when did you "get religion"?

I can imagine your reaction if I claimed el Presidente Trump received fewer votes than Hilary Clinton...

You can imagine a lot of things that don't necessarily reside in Realville ...

[Bobby]

Brian loses the debate in the Defense forum MRB
and locks the thread.
Coward.

Wrong, like so much, Bobby.

Brian,

This thread has, IMO run it's course. I will be locking it.

I did not "lose" the debate. I locked it because it was going round and round with endless repetitions of the same bullshit. QED.

dear Brian,
That's your opinion but in my opinion you were exposed as a CCP supporter and
were forced to deny that support when the topic of China's treatment of people in Tibet
was brought into the conversation.
Getting you to criticise China in Tibet was like pulling teeth -
you resisted so much and it was painful for you.
You are there as a moderator not as someone who must shut down the debate
because your views were not shown in a favorable light. QED.

forgiven

namaste

[Nom De Plume]

You people are useless at staying on topic!!!

[Black Orchid]

China strikes out ...

China has attacked the US response to the coronavirus pandemic in a scathing video saying the country has ignored transparent warnings about the virus.

A Chinese news agency has released a scathing attack on the US response to the coronavirus pandemic, accusing the country of being arrogant and contradictory.

The “Once Upon a Virus” video from Xinhua News Agency, run by the Chinese Communist Party, claims the US consistently ignored China’s open communication about coronavirus from December through to now.

The video says the US from early on dismissed the virus as being “only a flu” and more recently began accusing China of concealing information about how dangerous the virus is, while continuing to insist the virus is not dangerous.

“Gosh! Just listen to yourself,” a group of Chinese doctor figures tut-tut to a Lego man who is dressed as Lady Liberty, who insists, “We are correct, even when we contradict ourselves.”

The video has been viewed more than a million times.

The video goes on to say China urged its citizens to “wear a mask” while the US encouraged people not to, and told people the stay at home orders in China were “violating human rights”.

It continues to assert the temporary hospitals constructed in 10 days in Wuhan were called “concentration camps” in the US media, and deaths recorded at the beginning at the pandemic were called “typical third world”.

The US and China were locked in a trade war before the beginning of the outbreak of coronavirus before US President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping signed a trade deal in January.

Since then, relations between the two countries have deteriorated over the course of the pandemic.

Mr Trump was criticised for announcing a travel ban on incoming flights from China in January as cases of coronavirus began to spread around the world – including criticism that came from the World Health Organisation (WHO). But Mr Trump has stood by his decision saying it saved lives in the US.

Mr Trump later directed his organisation to temporarily halt WHO funding pending a review. The US leader accused the global health authority of “severely mismanaging and covering up the spread of the coronavirus”.

In February, China announced it would revoke the citizenship of 13 different journalists who worked for major publications The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post.

“They will not be allowed to continue working as journalists in the People’s Republic of China, including its Hong Kong and Macao Special Administrative Regions,” an announcement from China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said.

The Ministry said it was acting “in the spirit of reciprocity” after the US had designated five Chinese media agencies in the US as “foreign missions”.

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavir ... b8dc6cb0f5

Video is in the link.

[Black Orchid]

Then we have Chinese bought and paid for Twiggy Forrest with his outlandish claims because he is upset he will lose some money ...

The Prime Minister slapped down suggestions made the virus may have come from a Western country before it was discovered in Wuhan as “nonsense”, a claim that was recently made by the mining magnate.

“I don’t think anybody is in any fantasyland about where it started, it started in China,’’ Mr Morrison told 2GB on Friday morning.

“It started in China. That is not a statement of accusation or criticism, it’s just a statement of fact.”

Mr Forrest sparked national headlines this week when he invited Victoria’s Chinese consul-general Long Zhou to a press conference with Health Minister Greg Hunt.

The surprise appearance blindsided the Morrison Government and the Prime Minister confirmed today he was not invited by the government.

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavir ... 4d76a36c17

[Black Orchid]

Here's the video ...

[Bobby]

Wow - this thread was certainly trimmed down a lot.

[Outlaw Yogi]

Are we heading for war with China?

Definitely!
Just after George Dubya's "Get Saddam" campaign the Pentagon admitted they were preparing for war with China.
Not too long after (around 2007 I think) the Australian army stated they expected to be in a war in South Asia within the next 15 years.
My guess it'll be China, Pakistan and North Korea + maybe Iran & parts of Africa Vs Just about every one else.
Don't know where Russia will stand, if at all.
That's what the technology theft and force transfer is about - Preparation for war.
Although China with no combat experienced troops would prefer to bluff their way to domination without a shot.

It wouldn't be much of a war,

Don't know about that.
The Russians sold the Chinese Shivkal missiles - Hypersonic.
They release a gas shroud at the nose cone so they fly at 500 mph/800kph under water, thus undetectable by radar.
They're designed to take out air-craft carriers, but can be loaded with multiple nuclear warheads and used as ICBS so the pop up off the coast line and take out multiple cities.
China has stolen the Yank's stealth capabilities but not known if perfected yet.
Russia has developed jet fighters that fly faster and higher than US jets for a fraction of the cost, and China intends to buy them, if they haven't already.

China has never actually been involved in a world war.

Well actually, they've never fought a world war, but got massively invaded by Japan in WW2.

But if they decided to go to war, I guarantee there would be a lot of dead non-chinese.

Agreed, but China has a lot of cannon fodder to sacrifice.
It seems China intends emulating Japan in WW2 and U$A in Korea by bio/germ and chemical war fare agents - very cheap and effective.

Many many Chinese are soldiers
They are all very willing to fight
They all fight quite well
And there are plenty of them

Don't know how well they fight ... Wing Chung and Long Tong (Kung Fu) seems to have been all but fazed out as a decadent past time, except in Hong Kong. The monks who fought in the 'Boxer Rebellion' used Long Tong - fists only, no kicks or wrestling.
The Chinese students my father gave jobs 'coz Bob Hawke cried and said they (10k+) could stay when PRC army ran tanks over protesters in Tiananmen Square were all slow and weak, but they will put in long hours.

Only an idiot would consider a war with China.........bring out howard the coward, he is stupid enough

Idiocy doesn't always come in to it.
Quite often war is a choice between survival and subjugation.
And there's no doubt China thinks it's their turn to rule the world.

[billy the kid]

Currency wars...become economic wars...become trade wars...become shooting wars...
Natural progression methinks...the rise and fall of the roman empire comes to mind...(inset here USA)...