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AnimalMother
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by AnimalMother » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:38 am
AiA in Atlanta wrote:Good chance that the NSA whistleblower will be "disappeared."
Less of a chance, now that it's become a possibility that's talked about. It would only add fuel to the fire.
And yeah, mass surveillance isn't new. It dates back to the Cold War, and it's exactly what you'd expect governments to be doing.
But when Obama was elected on a platform of idealism and openness, doing this stuff creates a huge potential backlash. Combine it with the use of the IRS and Justice Departments to target political opponents, and it can get very ugly.
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by Super Nova » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:07 am
Doesn't a second term president care less about what he promised since he will not be able to run again and focus' more on the legacy they leave behind. (that is, do what's right)
Always remember what you post, send or do on the internet is not private and you are responsible.
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AnimalMother
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by AnimalMother » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:14 am
Even in a second term, a president who loses public support and trust becomes less able to achieve anything. Also poisons the well for his successors in the same party: See Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, G W Bush.
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by IQS.RLOW » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:26 pm
Quote by Aussie: I was a long term dead beat, wife abusing, drunk, black Muslim, on the dole for decades prison escapee having been convicted of paedophilia
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by boxy » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:51 pm
IQS.RLOW wrote:
lol, no win situation
"But you will run your fluffy bunny mouth at me. And I will take it, to play poker."
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AnimalMother
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by AnimalMother » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:32 am
NSA and the Scandalanche.
As former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy has pointed out, the courts have held that, while the contents of phone conversation are private, the records — who called whom, when, from where and for how long — of such calls are not.
What makes the news scary are the revelations of what else Team Obama’s been up to. Follow the bouncing scandal ball:
* On Benghazi, the administration has simply clammed up, keeping suspicions alive that there’s much more to this story. A handful of intrepid reporters have bucked the tide, but others have stopped asking why no help was sent and where President Obama was that night. Because . . .
* In clear violation of the First Amendment, the administration — allegedly angered about national-security leaks — seized phone records from the AP and Fox News in a what looks like a transparent attempt to put the fear of God into them and keep others incuriously toeing the party line, which mostly amount to: Trust us. But can we? Consider . . .
* The strange goings-on at the Environmental Protection Agency, where recently-departed chief Lisa Jackson was using a fictitious e-mail account in order to communicate privately without all those pesky “transparency” requirements. How widespread is this practice? What to make of word that Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius was also using “secondary” e-mail accounts?
* Then came the IRS bombshell — something every taxpaying American can relate to. That a supposedly neutral collection agency with powers far beyond what we entrust to law enforcement would cheerfully target Tea Party and other righty groups for special scrutiny is the stuff of Orwellian nightmares. And although the IRS has tried to blame “rogue elements” in its Cincinnati office, whistleblowers are coming out of the woodwork to point the finger directly at the White House.
All this adds up to a perfect storm of mistrust, now exacerbated by the fears of the surveillance state that has mushroomed since the panicky post-9/11 “reforms.” Thus Americans now fear a culture of suspicion among top law-enforcement officials, who treat more than 300 million overwhelmingly law-abiding Americans as potential criminals, subject to snoops and pat-downs.
And when that leviathan falls down on the job — as it did in failing to spot the Tsarnaev brothers — then the trade-off between liberty and security becomes a very bad bargain indeed.
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by Chard » Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:27 pm
Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy the FEAR to attack. - Dr. Strangelove
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by AnimalMother » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:22 pm
Heheh.
For many years now, I haven't worried about my precious words on the Internet being lost.
That's because I know the NSA and other organisations have backed them up for me.
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by Chard » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:42 pm
Deterrence is the art of producing in the mind of the enemy the FEAR to attack. - Dr. Strangelove
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by IQS.RLOW » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:39 pm
Aussie wrote:Dearest Obama, I hear you are in possession of "A Cabbies Day". Could you please mail the printouts to me or I will seek legal redress. You can find it by pressing F3 and searching for "shit on seat"
Quote by Aussie: I was a long term dead beat, wife abusing, drunk, black Muslim, on the dole for decades prison escapee having been convicted of paedophilia
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