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Rorschach
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by Rorschach » Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:58 pm
Aussie wrote:Rorschach wrote:You telling me defrauding union membership and others of $400,000-$1,000,000 is not a serious offence?
Show us any evidence you have which links Gillard with that defrauding. And please, don't try the 'guilt by association' rubbish.
Thing is Arsie... this was not the only "slush" fund they had access to,
....Really? And that has exactly what to do with Gillard?
.......and if Gillard had come forward instead of just dumping her boyfriend more fraud/theft and deception would have been uncovered sooner.
What exactly was she supposed to 'come forward' about, and exactly when? Not even Bishop is running that line. For all I know she may have dumped Wilson 'cause he was lousy in bed. Not my business.
1/ You know as well as I do that
guilt by association
is not rubbish in everycase and in some cases you can be criminally charged with such associations especially if you with-hold information or cover up crimes. Why create a strawman about me or anyone unassociated with the events to provide proof? You wanker.
Let me type the
2nd answer slowly for you... if Gillard had reported the illegal use of the AWU slush fund the police investigating would have discovered the other slush funds they were accessing funds from.
Three... she should have come forward when she knew it was a slush fund being used for fraudulent purposes. The inference by her being that is the time she dumped him. You have proof of course she didn't know that from the very beginning don't you?

I don't care what line Bishop will run, she is a competent lawyer and right now because of you I'm hoping she nails the PM And to think, originally I was not even for mentioning this affair by the Libs. Good work Arsie.
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by Rorschach » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:02 pm
Aussie wrote:Rorschach wrote:What are the sources of those quotes?
I thought you were a Lawyer Arsie... surely you recognise
the rules solicitors must abide by in Australia.
Don't you have a book with them in it?
Don't you know the rules?
Are you incapable of googling them?

I wasn't.
Personally I can't believe any sane person would be trying to defend her on these points.
Looks like another Arsie argument, shot down.
Shot down, really?
Post the links to those quotes, Roach. Until you do, we will all know who has been unable to substantiate their 'quotes' as being authoritative.

Yes shot down... maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate all your arguments end up in a flaming heap.
Google it you lazy sod... I did... anyone wanting to know can do the same. You don't need FOI to get access to it.
Oh right clueless... try some words like Australia/Confidentiality/Exceptions/Law try sticking to only official legal sites.
In case you still don't get "Shot down"
Let me try to illustrate it for you in a more up to date vernacular...

i have a feeling this may be getting a lot of use.
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Neferti
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by Neferti » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:29 pm
Neferti~ wrote:Aussie wrote:Her party's attitude towards this whole affair is "So what Australia, you cant prove it"..when it should be "We will do our best to answer these questions so as to finally put the matter to bed once and for all."
That is incorrect. I can find nothing anywhere where anyone, including Gillard, has taken the position "So what Australia, you can't prove it." What has occurred has been a consistency of requests for an allegation of wrong doing, and provision of the supporting evidence. That has not occurred over a period of 20 years, and even after,
in the last couple of days, the vixen Bishop actually had a secret meeting with the sleazeball Blewitt. Even Blewitt could not give her anything of value to use against Gillard. Instead the LNP have embarked on a smoke and mirrors witch-hunt and they manage to link her to fraud because of her personal association with a person who later became involved in fraud (or so it seems) and then carped, "You set it all up for him knowing what he intended," yet there is nothing which remotely goes to substantiate that she did know he intended to use the organisation as a vehicle to syphon off funds.
Evidence? With links please.
Gillard now has held two extensive Press Conferences, and took every question seasoned and up to speed journalists could throw at her. I would have thought that was a far better thing to do for transparency purposes than deal with it all withing the confines of a rowdy kindergarten Question Time in Parliament, one in which, the Leader of the Opposition took no part, and it could be argued, was thus distancing himself from the matter. If she lied during those Conferences (and there is no-one suggesting she did) then the political consequences will be no different than if she had 'lied' in Parliament.
Ha ha ha! What she tells the journos is off the record, if she says that in Parliament it is recorded and if her replies are found incorrect, Big Trouble. This woman is very sly.
As evidence, for how long now have we seen her say, "There will be no carbon tax under a Government I lead," and that was not made to Parliament. The political fall-out is exactly the same as if she had said it in Parliament, some would argue that it was very useful that she made the statement outside Parliament to the schmedia.
OFF TOPIC. This thread is about the AWU, not the rest of Gillard's lies.
Oh, by the way the Victorian Police FRAUD Squad are investigating this matter. Gillard's involvement as well. There is a paper trail that has Gillard's fingerprints all over it. She is not fit to be our Prime Minister and should resign.
PS Word around Canberra is that the Departments have been told to prepare for a March 16 Election.

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Rorschach
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by Rorschach » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:37 pm
I find it amusing, that "Lawyer" Arsie calls Blewitt a sleazeball in reference to Bishop, who he states met him for 10 minutes (freedom of association and all that) and says nothing and certainly nothing detrimental in regards to Gillard who for years had him and Wilson for friends and did business for and with them.
Let's do lunch Julia... sure thing Ralph, Bruce and I'd be only too happy.
Talk about hypocrisy
Birds of a feather Arsie and Gillard.

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by Black Orchid » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:44 pm
The blind defence of Gillard is disturbing. If it were Tony Abbott in this position (or any other MP) I would still be demanding answers.
Labor supporters seem to just run around with their fingers in their ears going "la la la la la". "We don't care that she knifed Rudd", "la la la la la", "Latham was our God and hero", "la la la la la", "All hail Juliar", "la la la la la"
Disturbing
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by Aussie » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:48 pm
Aussie wrote:Here is a
link confirming the secret meeting the vixen held with the sleazeball.
What is said to a Press Conference by anyone, including Gillard, is ON the record for us all to see.
And a bump for you in return Naffy.
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by Rorschach » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:51 pm
ROTFLMAO..
Secret meeting?
gee how come everybody knows about it?
Your article isn't titled SECRET meeting. Gee why do you call it that?
Deputy Opposition Leader Julie Bishop says she held a brief meeting with self-confessed union bagman Ralph Blewitt last week as part of her search for documents relating to Julia Gillard's work history.
Gee even she can't keep a SECRET.... you are so OWNED Arsie.
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by Aussie » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:52 pm
Black Orchid wrote:The blind defence of Gillard is disturbing. If it were Tony Abbott in this position (or any other MP) I would still be demanding answers.
Labor supporters seem to just run around with their fingers in their ears going "la la la la la". "We don't care that she knifed Rudd", "la la la la la", "Latham was our God and hero", "la la la la la", "All hail Juliar", "la la la la la"
Disturbing
And those matters have exactly what to do with the discussion, NOIQ................oh, sorry..............bugger it, I mean BO.? (Sorry, it is so easy to get you two mixed up.)
Secret meeting?
gee how come everybody knows about it?
Because she was forced to admit it after the event.
You really are terribly lousy at this.

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by Neferti » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:54 pm
Aussie wrote:Aussie wrote:Here is a
link confirming the secret meeting the vixen held with the sleazeball.
What is said to a Press Conference by anyone, including Gillard, is ON the record for us all to see.
And a bump for you in return Naffy.
Thank you.
What about the other stuff? Don't you know?
The EVIDENCE in the form of documents that have Gillard's signature on them. The stuff that the Victor4ian Fraud Squad are "looking into".
She's a "done like a dinner". Good riddance.
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by Aussie » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:56 pm
Neferti~ wrote:Aussie wrote:Aussie wrote:Here is a
link confirming the secret meeting the vixen held with the sleazeball.
What is said to a Press Conference by anyone, including Gillard, is ON the record for us all to see.
And a bump for you in return Naffy.
Thank you.
What about the other stuff?
What 'other stuff?'
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