Creepy Joe

[Aussie]

What the right have failed to realize is that people didn't vote for Biden... They voted to remove trump!
The majority of the electorate would rather have a man well beyond his prime than that of a populist tyrant!

Trump's constant use of Twitter was indeed counterproductive and often cringeworthy sure BUT he reduced unemployment amongst minorities, attempted to secure the southern border (I won't go into the mess at the border now and the hundreds of thousands of infected Covid carriers Biden is now bussing around the country), he stood up to China, pushed the pharmaceutical companies into developing a vaccine in record time, nominated people for the SC who believe the country should be constrained by the Constitution and will uphold it, he made NATO countries pay their fair share for their own defence, he was bringing manufacturing back to the US etc etc etc. All these policies and actions were good for the US and the current government is undoing all this because "orange man bad."

So I'd say there are a lot of very stupid voters out there who'd prefer to vote on emotion rather than what is best for the country as a whole and it will come back to bite their leftness.

What is best for the country is a livable wage. Trump did nothing about that. All he did was create more part-time jobs that come with no benefits!
If I were poor, having to work 80 hours in multiple jobs... barely seeing my family... well, I wouldn't vote Trump!

Yet Trump gained tremendous support in 2020 amongst minority workers and saw a huge upswing from both the black and hispanic communities.

"Tremendous?" Nah.....but support, yes. And this seems a balanced review of that.

Link.

[Aussie]

What the right have failed to realize is that people didn't vote for Biden... They voted to remove trump!
The majority of the electorate would rather have a man well beyond his prime than that of a populist tyrant!

Trump's constant use of Twitter was indeed counterproductive and often cringeworthy sure BUT he reduced unemployment amongst minorities, attempted to secure the southern border (I won't go into the mess at the border now and the hundreds of thousands of infected Covid carriers Biden is now bussing around the country), he stood up to China, pushed the pharmaceutical companies into developing a vaccine in record time, nominated people for the SC who believe the country should be constrained by the Constitution and will uphold it, he made NATO countries pay their fair share for their own defence, he was bringing manufacturing back to the US etc etc etc. All these policies and actions were good for the US and the current government is undoing all this because "orange man bad."

So I'd say there are a lot of very stupid voters out there who'd prefer to vote on emotion rather than what is best for the country as a whole and it will come back to bite their leftness.

Going there now:

You call this an attempt.....and then compare it to the bullshit rhetoric.

Link.

However, only 80 miles of new barriers have been built where there were none before - that includes 47 miles of primary wall, and 33 miles of secondary wall built to reinforce the initial barrier.

The vast majority of the 452 miles is replacing existing structures at the border that had been built by previous US administrations.

President Trump has argued that this should be regarded as new wall, because it's replacing what he called "old and worthless barriers."

So...later, and soon...I'll address the rest. I have a thing to finish in The Shed.

I have found plenty of debunking of the other claims you made, but I doubt it has any impact on you. You are rusted on the personal and public grub Humpty, so there is no point. You are classic right wing extreme, and it is of no surprise that you have mates of the same ilk at that other Forum. Have you tried Fatback with an invitation?

[Aussie]

How about these, Black Orchid?

Moved to Sparta by Bobby - off topic.

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[Nom De Plume]

What the right have failed to realize is that people didn't vote for Biden... They voted to remove trump!
The majority of the electorate would rather have a man well beyond his prime than that of a populist tyrant!

Trump's constant use of Twitter was indeed counterproductive and often cringeworthy sure BUT he reduced unemployment amongst minorities, attempted to secure the southern border (I won't go into the mess at the border now and the hundreds of thousands of infected Covid carriers Biden is now bussing around the country), he stood up to China, pushed the pharmaceutical companies into developing a vaccine in record time, nominated people for the SC who believe the country should be constrained by the Constitution and will uphold it, he made NATO countries pay their fair share for their own defence, he was bringing manufacturing back to the US etc etc etc. All these policies and actions were good for the US and the current government is undoing all this because "orange man bad."

So I'd say there are a lot of very stupid voters out there who'd prefer to vote on emotion rather than what is best for the country as a whole and it will come back to bite their leftness.

What is best for the country is a livable wage. Trump did nothing about that. All he did was create more part-time jobs that come with no benefits!
If I were poor, having to work 80 hours in multiple jobs... barely seeing my family... well, I wouldn't vote Trump!

Yet Trump gained tremendous support in 2020 amongst minority workers and saw a huge upswing from both the black and hispanic communities.

Apologies... I was putting myself in the shoes of a poor people, as I was once poor.... and the idea of working 3 or more part-time jobs just to keep a roof over my head...
There are about 3.5 million in the US who are on or below the poverty line...and white!
But you are so woke as to care about other ethnicities before your own... brainwashed much? I think yes!

None of this actually gets to the heart of the issue, being the lack of a livable wage.

[Black Orchid]

What the right have failed to realize is that people didn't vote for Biden... They voted to remove trump!
The majority of the electorate would rather have a man well beyond his prime than that of a populist tyrant!

Trump's constant use of Twitter was indeed counterproductive and often cringeworthy sure BUT he reduced unemployment amongst minorities, attempted to secure the southern border (I won't go into the mess at the border now and the hundreds of thousands of infected Covid carriers Biden is now bussing around the country), he stood up to China, pushed the pharmaceutical companies into developing a vaccine in record time, nominated people for the SC who believe the country should be constrained by the Constitution and will uphold it, he made NATO countries pay their fair share for their own defence, he was bringing manufacturing back to the US etc etc etc. All these policies and actions were good for the US and the current government is undoing all this because "orange man bad."

So I'd say there are a lot of very stupid voters out there who'd prefer to vote on emotion rather than what is best for the country as a whole and it will come back to bite their leftness.

What is best for the country is a livable wage. Trump did nothing about that. All he did was create more part-time jobs that come with no benefits!
If I were poor, having to work 80 hours in multiple jobs... barely seeing my family... well, I wouldn't vote Trump!

Yet Trump gained tremendous support in 2020 amongst minority workers and saw a huge upswing from both the black and hispanic communities.

Apologies... I was putting myself in the shoes of a poor people, as I was once poor.... and the idea of working 3 or more part-time jobs just to keep a roof over my head...
There are about 3.5 million in the US who are on or below the poverty line...and white!
But you are so woke as to care about other ethnicities before your own... brainwashed much? I think yes!

None of this actually gets to the heart of the issue, being the lack of a livable wage.

3.5 million puts it at around 1% so that can't be right and the poverty line also includes the mentally ill/homeless who wouldn't be working 3 jobs anyway.

Regardless, how is Biden going about addressing these concerns and getting to the heart of the issue other than bussing in more 'illegals' when he should be looking after his own? Do you think that at least some of the 1 million plus he has already bussed in are not going to be taking work away from these 'white' poor?

As with everything in life first things first.

[Bobby]

Joe has left Afghanistan in a hell of a lot of trouble.
It looks like the Taliban will control the whole country within 1 month.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/11/midd ... index.html


The overwhelming feeling of people who are in areas still controlled by the government is fear. Kabul may feel secure at the moment, but that may not last for long. The latest US intelligence assessment is that the Taliban could roll over government forces within a very few months.
There's little evidence on the ground -- in Kandahar or Ghazni -- to contradict that assessment.

[Aussie]

Joe has left Afghanistan in a hell of a lot of trouble.
It looks like the Taliban will control the whole country within 1 month.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/11/midd ... index.html


The overwhelming feeling of people who are in areas still controlled by the government is fear. Kabul may feel secure at the moment, but that may not last for long. The latest US intelligence assessment is that the Taliban could roll over government forces within a very few months.
There's little evidence on the ground -- in Kandahar or Ghazni -- to contradict that assessment.

I am not apologising for Biden one bit, but all he did was do what Humpty was doing and had started way before the last US election...get out of the place.

Having said that....I do trust Australia (given we were there) will assist anyone who wants out of the place now.

[Bobby]

Joe has left Afghanistan in a hell of a lot of trouble.
It looks like the Taliban will control the whole country within 1 month.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/11/midd ... index.html


The overwhelming feeling of people who are in areas still controlled by the government is fear. Kabul may feel secure at the moment, but that may not last for long. The latest US intelligence assessment is that the Taliban could roll over government forces within a very few months.
There's little evidence on the ground -- in Kandahar or Ghazni -- to contradict that assessment.

I am not apologising for Biden one bit, but all he did was do what Humpty was doing and had started way before the last US election...get out of the place.

Having said that....I do trust Australia (given we were there) will assist anyone who wants out of the place now.

I saw tonight on TV they are expecting at least 250,000 refugees trying to escape.
What if there are 1 million refugees?
Where will they go?
Will many come here? - how many?

[Neferti]

How to speak Bidenese!

[Bobby]

How to speak Bidenese!