there doesnt appear to be a large aboriginal community!
when you think of all the LAND THEY OWN.
maybe they are just landlords...you know capitalists..
Kerri-Anne v Yumi Stynes
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Re: Kerri-Anne v Yumi Stynes
those stats are pretty good for a small place like that sprint....very interesting they have a high income on average so they must live pretty well..
there doesnt appear to be a large aboriginal community!
when you think of all the LAND THEY OWN.
maybe they are just landlords...you know capitalists..
there doesnt appear to be a large aboriginal community!
when you think of all the LAND THEY OWN.
maybe they are just landlords...you know capitalists..
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Re: Kerri-Anne v Yumi Stynes
Employed by black fellas...
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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/ ... 3a6e26cca0
What happens on midmorning weekday television out of Sydney is not usually of concern to the people of Minyerri, a remote community 480km southeast of Darwin.
Kerri-Anne Kennerley is a name with vague recognition. Yumi Stynes draws a complete blank.
Michelle Bennett, 51, a senior Aboriginal teacher at Minyerri school, did not see them going head-to-head in an argument over what mattered more: changing the date of Australia Day or addressing issues of child abuse and atrocious conditions in our nation’s backyard.
But she already knows the answer. It’s her life.
Minyerri knows about living rough. Two years ago, it made national headlines with people, including kids, living in squalor in tents and makeshift bough sheds by the community billabong.
Since then, governments, both NT and federal, have been embarrassed into action and 10 new houses are either completed or nearly there.
There is still chronic overcrowding — which creates the perfect environment for child abuse — but the community is picking itself up.
“Everyone’s arguing about changing the date,” says Michelle.
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I’ve got nothing against people from urban areas, but what happened in the past happened. We had massacres, we had a lot of bad things.
“I can see where Kerri-Anne Kennerley is coming from. Kerri’s saying it’s important to focus on kids being neglected and abused. Of course it’s the most important issue.”
And changing the date? “It’s not something we talk about. The date is the date. Let it be.”
The rape of a two-year-old girl further south in Tennant Creek last year is known to every Aboriginal person in the north, whether they follow media or not.
The child had to be treated for gonorrhoea after the assault in a house where welfare authorities knew the children were at risk.
“It hurts,” says Michelle. When you hear about it, you wonder why that happens. It saddens me to hear about our people doing that to our kids, our bubs. What trauma will that kid go through?
“Who knows how underreported it is? You hear about it in surrounding communities. It’s sad. If you’re an adult, it’s your responsibility to look after kids. I’ve protected mine like a lioness. That’s who I am.”
Kennerley was called a “racist” by Stynes. Michelle’s experience is slightly different. Growing up indigenous, she’s been called racist things.
“It doesn’t matter to me,” she says. “I’m not going to change.”
What they want to change is their health. Darren Farrell, Minyerri traditional owner and reverend, says the outlook is bleak. “We have biggest mob health problems,” he says. “Too much. Diabetes, heart problems, cancer. Some people, if they get from the flu, they stay sick.”
This man, of the Alawa tribe, is asked about Australia Day. He shrugs. “We want a good, happy healthy environment for our kids.”
It is a curious First World indulgence to have a venomous argument about changing a date, while people among us live in Third World conditions.
We met Carole Farrell, 47, and her husband, Darrell O’Keefe, 43. They do not watch TV, don’t read papers, do the internet or any of it. They have never heard of Kennerley and need the thrust of the argument translated.
Currently, they are living in a lean-to while waiting for a house to be built. This is partly by choice. The locals have been offered temporary accommodation in clammy demountable boxes and this couple prefers to live on the outskirts of Minyerri, cooking damper on the outside fire.
They rake the sand outside their humpy and “borrow” electricity to run a fan and fridge. They don’t have a car.
“Car?” says Darrell. “We got family.”
Australia Day? They know nothing about. They don’t need to. There’s nothing more Australian than them. “Children,” says Darrell, “are the most important thing.”
Minyerri is looking better than it did two years ago. The school on Thursday this week was running at 80 per cent attendance — a near record, but it’s early in the school year and it will soon drop off, possibly to as low as 50 per cent.
It’s a busy and invigorated community, trying hard. But then we head north to Beswick.
A COMMUNITY TORN APART
ON THE ROAD to Beswick, we are following what looks like a refrigerated meat delivery van. But this vehicle’s not delivering; it’s collecting.
The police have got vehicles blocking the road. A green Ford Fairmont has left the road and rolled end-over-end. An indigenous man is deceased in the vehicle. He’s the third from this area to die on NT roads in 10 days
Jail, road trauma and alcohol-related bad health have ripped the young and middle-aged men from these communities. Nothing can be normal in these townships when so many are dead or missing.
The police point out something curious. Hidden in a culvert, just near the destroyed vehicle, is a bottle of vodka. It is suspected one of the passengers had the wherewithal, even as a friend lay dead at the wheel, to stash the liquor for later.
Further up the road, the community of Beswick is a picture of ruin and despair.
Two quick points. Having covered this story for decades, there’s a little bit of chagrin in following in the footsteps of Kerri-Anne Kennerley. But more than that, this community is at this time as bad as I’ve ever seen, anywhere, ever.
It’s partly because the relatively new housing development at the south of town is now close to a total slum. When new things are wrecked, it always looks worse.
Doors ripped from hinges, ground-in filth on the walls, dead cars that have had their windows post-mortem flogged like they’re being punished, heaps of wandering kids, dogs with tick infestations so grotesque that it is nothing less than cruel.
There’s plenty of official-looking vehicles driving around. How can they not see what is before their faces? How can the locals live like this? It’s their decision not to clean, it’s their decision whether or not to destroy their homes.
If the dogs are neglected, what about the kids? Being young, brilliant and fearless, they backflip off standing starts and demonstrate uncanny prowess with balls. But we already know that. What we don’t know is how they are suffering.
What happens behind the front doors in homes like the ones in Beswick, just 420km from Darwin? That is, if they have front doors.
There are food programs at school, and these kids tend to get ravenous midmorning because they don’t get breakfast. It’s a daily triage routine that cannot mask what we’re really looking at: the most vulnerable kids in Australia.
As we head out of Beswick, the body’s been taken away in the mortuary vehicle and the cops are finalising their investigation.
Chatting to one of the officers about Beswick, he agrees it’s as bad as he’s seen it. Yet, he says, the community of Barunga, just 30km away, is spotless and they’re not seeing major problems.
“They’re the same people, the same families. How can one be so bad and the other so good?” He doesn’t understand it, nor do I. But it is something to do with strong people taking charge in Barunga, while no one is doing the same in Beswick.
Were Yumi Stynes to spend one night in one of the hovels of south-side Beswick, or even to just do a drive-by from an airconditioned vehicle, her views on the national priorities would be shaken.
What happens on midmorning weekday television out of Sydney is not usually of concern to the people of Minyerri, a remote community 480km southeast of Darwin.
Kerri-Anne Kennerley is a name with vague recognition. Yumi Stynes draws a complete blank.
Michelle Bennett, 51, a senior Aboriginal teacher at Minyerri school, did not see them going head-to-head in an argument over what mattered more: changing the date of Australia Day or addressing issues of child abuse and atrocious conditions in our nation’s backyard.
But she already knows the answer. It’s her life.
Minyerri knows about living rough. Two years ago, it made national headlines with people, including kids, living in squalor in tents and makeshift bough sheds by the community billabong.
Since then, governments, both NT and federal, have been embarrassed into action and 10 new houses are either completed or nearly there.
There is still chronic overcrowding — which creates the perfect environment for child abuse — but the community is picking itself up.
“Everyone’s arguing about changing the date,” says Michelle.
JACINTA PRICE: Yumi is wrong about Kerri-Anne
OPINION: Of course what KAK said was racist
MORE: Jacinta Price taunted with vile abuse as she backs KAK
WARREN MUNDINE: KAK praise for talking about indigenous issues
I’ve got nothing against people from urban areas, but what happened in the past happened. We had massacres, we had a lot of bad things.
“I can see where Kerri-Anne Kennerley is coming from. Kerri’s saying it’s important to focus on kids being neglected and abused. Of course it’s the most important issue.”
And changing the date? “It’s not something we talk about. The date is the date. Let it be.”
The rape of a two-year-old girl further south in Tennant Creek last year is known to every Aboriginal person in the north, whether they follow media or not.
The child had to be treated for gonorrhoea after the assault in a house where welfare authorities knew the children were at risk.
“It hurts,” says Michelle. When you hear about it, you wonder why that happens. It saddens me to hear about our people doing that to our kids, our bubs. What trauma will that kid go through?
“Who knows how underreported it is? You hear about it in surrounding communities. It’s sad. If you’re an adult, it’s your responsibility to look after kids. I’ve protected mine like a lioness. That’s who I am.”
Kennerley was called a “racist” by Stynes. Michelle’s experience is slightly different. Growing up indigenous, she’s been called racist things.
“It doesn’t matter to me,” she says. “I’m not going to change.”
What they want to change is their health. Darren Farrell, Minyerri traditional owner and reverend, says the outlook is bleak. “We have biggest mob health problems,” he says. “Too much. Diabetes, heart problems, cancer. Some people, if they get from the flu, they stay sick.”
This man, of the Alawa tribe, is asked about Australia Day. He shrugs. “We want a good, happy healthy environment for our kids.”
It is a curious First World indulgence to have a venomous argument about changing a date, while people among us live in Third World conditions.
We met Carole Farrell, 47, and her husband, Darrell O’Keefe, 43. They do not watch TV, don’t read papers, do the internet or any of it. They have never heard of Kennerley and need the thrust of the argument translated.
Currently, they are living in a lean-to while waiting for a house to be built. This is partly by choice. The locals have been offered temporary accommodation in clammy demountable boxes and this couple prefers to live on the outskirts of Minyerri, cooking damper on the outside fire.
They rake the sand outside their humpy and “borrow” electricity to run a fan and fridge. They don’t have a car.
“Car?” says Darrell. “We got family.”
Australia Day? They know nothing about. They don’t need to. There’s nothing more Australian than them. “Children,” says Darrell, “are the most important thing.”
Minyerri is looking better than it did two years ago. The school on Thursday this week was running at 80 per cent attendance — a near record, but it’s early in the school year and it will soon drop off, possibly to as low as 50 per cent.
It’s a busy and invigorated community, trying hard. But then we head north to Beswick.
A COMMUNITY TORN APART
ON THE ROAD to Beswick, we are following what looks like a refrigerated meat delivery van. But this vehicle’s not delivering; it’s collecting.
The police have got vehicles blocking the road. A green Ford Fairmont has left the road and rolled end-over-end. An indigenous man is deceased in the vehicle. He’s the third from this area to die on NT roads in 10 days
Jail, road trauma and alcohol-related bad health have ripped the young and middle-aged men from these communities. Nothing can be normal in these townships when so many are dead or missing.
The police point out something curious. Hidden in a culvert, just near the destroyed vehicle, is a bottle of vodka. It is suspected one of the passengers had the wherewithal, even as a friend lay dead at the wheel, to stash the liquor for later.
Further up the road, the community of Beswick is a picture of ruin and despair.
Two quick points. Having covered this story for decades, there’s a little bit of chagrin in following in the footsteps of Kerri-Anne Kennerley. But more than that, this community is at this time as bad as I’ve ever seen, anywhere, ever.
It’s partly because the relatively new housing development at the south of town is now close to a total slum. When new things are wrecked, it always looks worse.
Doors ripped from hinges, ground-in filth on the walls, dead cars that have had their windows post-mortem flogged like they’re being punished, heaps of wandering kids, dogs with tick infestations so grotesque that it is nothing less than cruel.
There’s plenty of official-looking vehicles driving around. How can they not see what is before their faces? How can the locals live like this? It’s their decision not to clean, it’s their decision whether or not to destroy their homes.
If the dogs are neglected, what about the kids? Being young, brilliant and fearless, they backflip off standing starts and demonstrate uncanny prowess with balls. But we already know that. What we don’t know is how they are suffering.
What happens behind the front doors in homes like the ones in Beswick, just 420km from Darwin? That is, if they have front doors.
There are food programs at school, and these kids tend to get ravenous midmorning because they don’t get breakfast. It’s a daily triage routine that cannot mask what we’re really looking at: the most vulnerable kids in Australia.
As we head out of Beswick, the body’s been taken away in the mortuary vehicle and the cops are finalising their investigation.
Chatting to one of the officers about Beswick, he agrees it’s as bad as he’s seen it. Yet, he says, the community of Barunga, just 30km away, is spotless and they’re not seeing major problems.
“They’re the same people, the same families. How can one be so bad and the other so good?” He doesn’t understand it, nor do I. But it is something to do with strong people taking charge in Barunga, while no one is doing the same in Beswick.
Were Yumi Stynes to spend one night in one of the hovels of south-side Beswick, or even to just do a drive-by from an airconditioned vehicle, her views on the national priorities would be shaken.
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its interesting tonight I watch a show on SBS.. called Robson Green in the N.T.
Robson Green being one of my fav actors I took a look....and he spent time in Arnhem land..with a tribe who taught him how to make a didgeridoo where he first cut down the tree.. one of the questions he asked the gentleman who was teaching him ! tell me he said do you own the land.?
no he said we do not own the land we are the land..
I doubt bri bri would understand the difference but I thought how remarkable that of all things that should come up on a program I just happened to be watching.......this group btw were very clean well fed doing what real aboriginals do..... not marching and bitching and complaining like a certain other group
Robson Green being one of my fav actors I took a look....and he spent time in Arnhem land..with a tribe who taught him how to make a didgeridoo where he first cut down the tree.. one of the questions he asked the gentleman who was teaching him ! tell me he said do you own the land.?
no he said we do not own the land we are the land..
I doubt bri bri would understand the difference but I thought how remarkable that of all things that should come up on a program I just happened to be watching.......this group btw were very clean well fed doing what real aboriginals do..... not marching and bitching and complaining like a certain other group
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So, a person's "race" is now determined by their actions, in your view, Cods?
Yeah, you're not really a Racist, are you? Tut, tut, urban Indigenous folk are just as entitled to an opinion as rural living ones. What I find interesting is that you skip over the parts that describe the symptoms that many Indigenous people live with, every day - overcrowded accommodation, a sense of hopelessness, being insulted by white people all the time, being dispossessed of their land and culture - all little things to you, I'm sure but important to Indigenous people who have had their families destroyed, their tribes destroyed, their culture destroyed.
Yeah, you're not really a Racist, are you? Tut, tut, urban Indigenous folk are just as entitled to an opinion as rural living ones. What I find interesting is that you skip over the parts that describe the symptoms that many Indigenous people live with, every day - overcrowded accommodation, a sense of hopelessness, being insulted by white people all the time, being dispossessed of their land and culture - all little things to you, I'm sure but important to Indigenous people who have had their families destroyed, their tribes destroyed, their culture destroyed.
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These places are run by corporate entities. Nothing would work if it was run by black fellas.`They have no idea what a corporate entity even is.
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Not in my experience. They are not stupid, they just tend to be less well educated. They have over 70,000 years of experience with each other and white fellas. There isn't a trick which can get past a smart Indigenous person.rhino wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:28 amThese places are run by corporate entities. Nothing would work if it was run by black fellas.`They have no idea what a corporate entity even is.
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Yep and in 70000 years they have invented the.......stick.brian ross wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:42 amNot in my experience. They are not stupid, they just tend to be less well educated. They have over 70,000 years of experience with each other and white fellas. There isn't a trick which can get past a smart Indigenous person.rhino wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:28 amThese places are run by corporate entities. Nothing would work if it was run by black fellas.`They have no idea what a corporate entity even is.
If others didn't do everything for them
They woukd still be sitting in shite and sucking down grubs.
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My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream
A world free from the plague of Islam
A world that has never known the horrors of the cult of death.
My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream
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Re: Kerri-Anne v Yumi Stynes
brian ross wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:11 amSo, a person's "race" is now determined by their actions, in your view, Cods?
SORRY BRI BRI BUT YOU HAVE LOST ME....THAT IS QUITE A LONG ITEM PERHAPS YOU CAN DO A QUOTE FOR ME IF YOU KNOW HOW THAT IS...
GLAD YOU PICKED UP ON THATYeah, you're not really a Racist, are you?
Tut, tut, urban Indigenous folk are just as entitled to an opinion as rural living ones. What I find interesting is that you skip over the parts that describe the symptoms that many Indigenous people live with, every day - overcrowded accommodation, a sense of hopelessness, being insulted by white people all the time, being dispossessed of their land and culture - all little things to you, I'm sure but important to Indigenous people who have had their families destroyed, their tribes destroyed, their culture destroyed.
DARLING DID YOU SKIP OVER THE BIT WHERE THEY TOLD YOU SO MANY BRAND NEWS HOMES HAD BEEN BUILT FROM THEM ONLY TO BE DESTROYED IN A FLASH.. GO BACK HAVE A READ PET....NO ONE FORCES THEM TO LIVE LIKE THEY DO....IF IT MAKES SENSE TO YOU TO EXTEND POWER LINES AND WATER AND GAS PIPES TO REMOTE AREAS WHERE IN A FEW SHORT YEARS THEY GET UP AND LEAVE THAT AREA FOR ANOTHER REMOTE PLACE....BECAUSE THE FOOD OR FISH HAVE RUN OUT.... ITS THEIR WAY REMEMBER?....
I am sure the minister in charge of Aboriginal Affairs would love you ideas on how to give them mobil power and water....so it can be moved from site to site with almost no cost.......give him a call chuck he will be delighted..
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Re: Kerri-Anne v Yumi Stynes
bri bri never gives proof only insults...I am putting him on my ignore list its like talking to a zombie.rhino wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:28 amThese places are run by corporate entities. Nothing would work if it was run by black fellas.`They have no idea what a corporate entity even is.
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