Reasons not to vote LABOR.

[Jovial_Monk]

Errr no.

The Carbon Price came with compensation, the PPL idiocy doesn’t. Businesses and households could adapt their practices to minimise energy use and actually save money!. Can’t adapt with the PPL.

[Rorschach]

Errr no.

The Carbon Price came with compensation, the PPL idiocy doesn’t. Businesses and households could adapt their practices to minimise energy use and actually save money!. Can’t adapt with the PPL.

[Jovial_Monk]

OK, so you cannot mount an argument. I will once again just ignore you—I do wonder what a numpty like you thinks he is doing on a political discussion board tho.

[Rorschach]

OK, so you cannot mount an argument. I will once again just ignore you—I do wonder what a numpty like you thinks he is doing on a political discussion board tho.

I already did Monkey Boy... you just can't see sense... too much home brew perhaps eh

[Black Orchid]

States want compensation for asylum seeker costs ...

TONY EASTLEY: Soaring costs of healthcare for asylum seekers and refugees is worrying state governments.

The three most populous states want the Commonwealth to provide more funds to meet the growing needs.

Victoria's Health Minister David Davis will put his concerns to a joint meeting of states and the Commonwealth in Sydney on Friday.

David Davis, what's wrong with the system as it stands?

DAVID DAVIS: Well the Commonwealth has increased the flow of refugees and asylum seekers very significantly. Victoria welcomes additional people and is prepared to work with the Commonwealth to support them.

But the Commonwealth has not put in place enough supports to assist the state in providing that support. Not all people are supported adequately by Commonwealth programs and we need to make sure that where people are landing in our community, adding to the need for services in our community, that there is proper support.

TONY EASTLEY: The Federal Government would argue, would it not, that it's funding it through Medicare?

DAVID DAVIS: Well in fact the opening of Medicare to a number of asylum seekers and refugees has been an important step but there are many state services that are not adequately supported by the Commonwealth to provide a full suite of services for a range of asylum seekers and refugees.

For example there's inadequate interpreting services, which need to underpin not just GP services but hospital based services and services for the full range of community based services.

TONY EASTLEY: Wouldn't some of those services though be co-jointly funded via the Federal Government with its normal health funding to Victoria?

DAVID DAVIS: Well the health funding hasn't been adjusted in a way that will actually pick up the increased flows of people and the specific and special needs of many of the asylum seekers and refugees.

TONY EASTLEY: So why have costs gone up so much - just because of the number of the people arriving in Australia?

DAVID DAVIS: Large numbers mean that you've got to see more services provided.

I mean the truth of the matter of course is that they also bring special needs. And, you know, a 16-year-old boy from Africa having his first dental appointment will inevitably have a large number of dental needs.

TONY EASTLEY: So how much extra money do you think you need?

DAVID DAVIS: Well we put an extra $22 million in the state budget. That's $5 million this year and escalating over four years. So that was in the Victorian state budget in direct recognition of the increased costs of supporting refugees and asylum seekers and the increased flows.

Now we know that it's better to manage and respond to this demand by getting ahead of the game, dealing with these services in the community, providing specific local community services, rather than having patients fall back to our major emergency departments, where it's obviously very costly to deal with services.

TONY EASTLEY: Is Victoria alone in this?

DAVID DAVIS: No, it's New South Wales and Queensland and other states as well. Victoria has been carrying a significant load here. We know that there's a, you know, a high number coming here and the number of asylum seekers and refugees this financial year that we're in now will treble compared to the one before.

TONY EASTLEY: Victoria's Health Minister David Davis.

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New suburbs are popping up everywhere in Sydney with little or no thought to the strain on services. Some north western suburbs have no rail service and rely on 2 lane major roads and erratic bus services. Hospitals are way over-stretched.

More forethought and less open arms please

[Neferti]

Probably Off Topic but I was speaking to somebody today who said that they have "no problem with Muslims".

I notice that there is a lady in a scarf at my local Chemist. She's nice. So? I tried to explain how Western Sydney is becoming a hot place with drive by shootings and so forth but here in Canberra it is OK to be a Muslim. So far!

I think here we have the Sudanese gangs, rather than the Lebanese, here although I recall working with a Lebanese girl who fasted at the appropriate time and I think she and her mates were caught out gun smuggling. We are talking way back. 1990s.

Hopefully, Tony Abbott will STOP the influx of AS people.

[Rorschach]

Just watched Tanya Plibersek lying her arse off on Lateline and not being pulled up for it once.

The sooner these lying losers get the boot, the better.

[Rorschach]

HOLDEN boss Mike Devereux says the carbon tax has placed an unwanted additional burden on the company as it struggles to keep its Australian operations going.

A day after he asked workers to take a pay cut, Mr Devereux suggested the company wouldn't be considering such action if the carbon tax had been axed.

[Neferti]

Just watched Tanya Plibersek lying her arse off on Lateline and not being pulled up for it once.

The sooner these lying losers get the boot, the better.

Who takes notice of any so-called Political program on Your ABC? I gave up watching ABC and other commercial TV years ago. I have Foxtel and can watch APAC ALL day while Parliament is sitting. I have it on right now! Mostly it is quite orderly and very UNLIKE Question Time which is more like a Boy Scout Jamboree than anything else and the performance of apparently adults who have been voted in by their constituents is appalling. IF you really want to know what is going on in Parliament, listen to the radio or watch it on the Net. That way you will get to know who the MPs are and what they are saying.

Patience! It makes me laugh that the MSM seems to think that putting KRudd back would give the ALP new life. BS. KRudd is the reason Australia is in the situation it is, Gillard has made matters worse as she thinks she knows everything. Let's hope that Abbott continues doing what he is doing but ramps it up nearer the Election.

[Super Nova]

HOLDEN boss Mike Devereux says the carbon tax has placed an unwanted additional burden on the company as it struggles to keep its Australian operations going.

A day after he asked workers to take a pay cut, Mr Devereux suggested the company wouldn't be considering such action if the carbon tax had been axed.

That is just typical.

Australia's only hope is to give them the boot.

As this gentleman once said