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Re: nbn takeup failure

Post by Mattus » Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:17 pm

Jovial Monk wrote: Imagine gaming at these sort of speeds:
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I don't think you understand. That speed test is for data travelling from the University of New England in Armidale New South Wales to a server in Sydney. The data is travelling about 400 kms.

The gaming, youtube and porn you're looking forward to all comes from US servers, a distance of at least 12,000 kms. Highschool physics tells us that a 10 ms ping will be impossible over that distance. And the download speeds will probably be no different since it's going through the same pipes across the pacific.

NBN will improve speeds within Australia. It won't change the fact that we're an island on the other side of the world from everything.
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Re: nbn takeup failure

Post by sook » Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:31 pm

Don't confuse the idiot with where the majority of content will come from and the fact that it will be tailored to mobile speeds because thats where the growth is forecast

He is all about " it's duh Liebor partay- theys noes wut tehys ar doing yay"

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Re: nbn takeup failure

Post by Maxine » Sat Sep 24, 2011 6:47 pm

Plenty more pipes are being built. Speed of light is of course an issue but the NBN should sort out the numbers of jumps etc data travels and so even ping to US should reduce.

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Re: nbn takeup failure

Post by Super Nova » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:13 pm

Check this out.

I have in the past aurgued that NBN the way it was being implemented was not an effective use of money and a gamle. I argued that it needs to be combined with mobile and wireless technology. There is no need for huge data pipes to every home..... just to the point of precence that is near enough for wireless points or even over new mobile network technology.

(Monk, any comments?.... could you be wrong?)

Check this report out.

Again NBN is a bet that is wasting tax payers money. "....that instead of the more expensive NBN model of fibre to the premises (FTTP), the government should invest in FTTN." The new terms have been introduced over time but FTTN is a safer bet. I never connect via cable to the internet anymore. I do it wirelessly at work and at home. Same with my TV and other devices.
Many of the benefits of the national broadband network could be delivered for one-third to one-quarter of the price, the opposition communications spokesman, Malcolm Turnbull, will tell telecommunication business leaders today.

Giving a keynote speech to the Commsday Summit, a two-day meeting of Australian telecom leaders in Sydney, Mr Turnbull will say the Coalition favours a cheaper fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) model, in which broadband fibre ends up to a kilometre from homes, which are then connected to the network by copper wire.

Mr Turnbull says the NBN model, of joining broadband fibre to the home, is three to four times as expensive.

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He also says the fixed-line network is being built on an uncertain business model, with internet users increasingly turning to mobile and tablet devices.

''NBN Co has been fairly aggressive in its estimates here - after accounting for empty premises, it only expects about 13 per cent of households and businesses to go mobile-only by 2021,'' he said.

Mr Turnbull will argue that instead of the more expensive NBN model of fibre to the premises (FTTP), the government should invest in FTTN.

Under the FTTN model, data speeds vary depending on how close residents are to the node, and bandwidths are generally lower than the NBN model, which will deliver to-the-home service to 93 per cent of households.

But Mr Turnbull said the government should instead look at connecting homes now in broadband hot spots, saying the revenue generated by customers using high-speed broadband services was ''the great imponderable''. ''Nobody knows what new applications will emerge and what consumers will pay for them,'' he will say.

''To be candid, any Coalition broadband plan will face similar uncertainties about the level of future demand, which is why deferring expensive and irreversible commitments such as FTTP to the extent that this is possible is simply prudent management, not some bloody-minded refusal to face the future.''


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Re: nbn takeup failure

Post by Neferti » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:53 pm

Super Nova wrote:Check this out.

I have in the past aurgued that NBN the way it was being implemented was not an effective use of money and a gamle. I argued that it needs to be combined with mobile and wireless technology. There is no need for huge data pipes to every home..... just to the point of precence that is near enough for wireless points or even over new mobile network technology.

(Monk, any comments?.... could you be wrong?)

Check this report out.

Again NBN is a bet that is wasting tax payers money. "....that instead of the more expensive NBN model of fibre to the premises (FTTP), the government should invest in FTTN." The new terms have been introduced over time but FTTN is a safer bet. I never connect via cable to the internet anymore. I do it wirelessly at work and at home. Same with my TV and other devices.
Many of the benefits of the national broadband network could be delivered for one-third to one-quarter of the price, the opposition communications spokesman, Malcolm Turnbull, will tell telecommunication business leaders today.

Giving a keynote speech to the Commsday Summit, a two-day meeting of Australian telecom leaders in Sydney, Mr Turnbull will say the Coalition favours a cheaper fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) model, in which broadband fibre ends up to a kilometre from homes, which are then connected to the network by copper wire.

Mr Turnbull says the NBN model, of joining broadband fibre to the home, is three to four times as expensive.

Advertisement: Story continues below

He also says the fixed-line network is being built on an uncertain business model, with internet users increasingly turning to mobile and tablet devices.

''NBN Co has been fairly aggressive in its estimates here - after accounting for empty premises, it only expects about 13 per cent of households and businesses to go mobile-only by 2021,'' he said.

Mr Turnbull will argue that instead of the more expensive NBN model of fibre to the premises (FTTP), the government should invest in FTTN.

Under the FTTN model, data speeds vary depending on how close residents are to the node, and bandwidths are generally lower than the NBN model, which will deliver to-the-home service to 93 per cent of households.

But Mr Turnbull said the government should instead look at connecting homes now in broadband hot spots, saying the revenue generated by customers using high-speed broadband services was ''the great imponderable''. ''Nobody knows what new applications will emerge and what consumers will pay for them,'' he will say.

''To be candid, any Coalition broadband plan will face similar uncertainties about the level of future demand, which is why deferring expensive and irreversible commitments such as FTTP to the extent that this is possible is simply prudent management, not some bloody-minded refusal to face the future.''


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Monk's whole idea was that the NBN would supply him (and everyone) with Very Fast Downloads for about $20 a month .... no download limits. A bit like "Medibank" when it was introduced .... a FREE for All.

That's worked, hasn't it? Where the money comes from doesn't occur to the Lefties, they think "somebody else" pays for that. :rofl :tease

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Re: nbn takeup failure

Post by Super Nova » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:05 pm

Neferti~ wrote:Monk's whole idea was that the NBN would supply him (and everyone) with Very Fast Downloads for about $20 a month .... no download limits. A bit like "Medibank" when it was introduced .... a FREE for All.

That's worked, hasn't it? Where the money comes from doesn't occur to the Lefties, they think "somebody else" pays for that. :rofl :tease
Having huge pipes to every home for next to nothing is a huge waste of money. A gamble on technology that is not worth the risk and money.

The lefties view that everything be provided at next to nothing, not reflecting the true cost is just stupid. If you want a huge pipe, you should pay for it. It's not a right.
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