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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by 5.56 NATO » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:02 pm

There is a difference between responsible immigration policy encouraging educated skilled workers from countries with compatible values to ours and the wholesale arrival of shit be it by boat or other means that have been encouraged here by the left to broader their electoral base you idiot (Mantroll , that would be)
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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Rorschach » Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:22 pm

mantra wrote:
Rorschach wrote:Don't vote for parties that support it.....
Which party doesn't support it? Maybe a neo-nazi party?
Nope ON was against it and it would be gone now if idiots who vote didn't fall for the dishonesty of the other parties particularly the Prog Left.
The Dems once had a policy for sustainable population increases till Kernot made them pseudo Labor.

You don't have to be a Nazi to get rid of multiculti and change immigration policy, but name-calling leftist morons will make your life difficult if you promise to do so.
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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Rorschach » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:39 pm

Just another reason to dump multiculturalism...
Radicalisation: every answer is always wrong
Date November 6, 2014
Julie Szego is an author and freelance journalist.

After concerns that Islamic State-inspired sectarian violence had come to the streets of Sydney, Tony Abbott said Australians must reject the "death cult" with its "apocalyptic millennial ideology". Similarly, Justice Minister Michael Keenan this week addressed an international forum about the importance of "meeting the challenge of violent extremism and the radicalisation of Australian citizens".

We must stop young Muslims in the West from becoming "radicalised" - how many times have we heard this mission statement? How many times have we heard the word "radicalised"? Does this almost obsessive focus on radicalisation run the risk of radicalising would-be radicals? I'm not being flippant. Some commentators say indeed it does. Some of the Muslim community representatives on Monday's Q&A implied public discussion about radicalisation in Muslim communities fuels the very problem it seeks to combat.

I'm dying to understand what leads young Australians or Canadians or Swedes to embrace violent Islamism. Yet a layperson trying to navigate the theories of radicalisation espoused by security experts, politicians and community interlocutors is destined for confusion. What causes radicalisation? How long is a piece of rope?


Culture clash: An image from an Islamic State propaganda video. Photo: AFP/AL-FURQAN
The umbrella theory, it seems, is that young men and women turn to ISIL or other extremist movements because they are alienated and disaffected. That's the sweeping, dumbed-down, Radicalism 101. But what causes alienation and disaffection? Poverty and unemployment were popular theories after 9/11. Look at the immigrant ghettos on the outskirts of Paris, people said. Look at Britain's depressed northern communities. On Q&A, Neil Gaughan from the Australian Federal Police referred in passing to the "socio-economic" causes of radicalisation. But the theory is less fashionable now that many a trust-fund youngster has succumbed to jihad.

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We're more likely to hear alienation discussed as a response to racism and discrimination against Muslims. This includes the West going to war with Muslim countries. In the wake of the 2003 invasion of Iraq, intelligence agencies in the US and Britain found that the war had strengthened the forces of global jihad. Some Muslim leaders also claim the government's support for Israel is a root cause of radicalisation. In September, Greens leader Christine Milne said the decision to join the campaign against ISIL in Iraq was "tearing apart the fabric of Australian society".

Meanwhile, security experts say ISIL propaganda videos, including the executions of Western journalists, are recruitment tools. See evil, this line of thinking implies, and you might turn evil.

After September's anti-terror raids in Sydney and Brisbane, which mobilised 800 police officers, Dr Ashutosh Misra from Griffith University praised the authorities' crackdown on extremism, but warned the recent raids would be used as "a fodder" for these groups' radicalisation programs. Some critics slammed the raids as political theatre. This led Federal Liberal MP Alex Hawke to label such accusations inflammatory, which suggests they might provoke a radical response.

So depending on which way you swing, the anti-terror raids - and the way we talked about them - either helped smother radicalisation or helped fuel it. Same thing with the travel restrictions to Syria and Iraq. The government says banning travel to these countries will help curb radicalisation. Critics say banning people from going there will seed the resentment that leads to radicalism.

During the terror raids Cory Bernardi mused that the burqa was a "flag of fundamentalism". Yet a 2011 ASIO report warned banning the burqa "would likely have negative implications, including providing further fuel for extremist propaganda, recruitment, and radicalisation efforts". So does the burqa signify a radical mindset? Or would banning the burqa harvest radicals? What about talking about banning the burqa? Am I lighting the flame as we speak?

After terror attacks, Western leaders routinely call on Muslim clerics and community representatives to condemn the acts as a message to would-be radicals in their flock. But for Muslim radicals, wrote University of South Australia academic Yassir Morsi in The Guardian in August, being condemned "is itself an affirmation". According to this school of thought, supine community leaders provoke contempt among young Muslims, further entrenching their rad... I know, it's getting tedious.

On the shopping list of factors that are/might/could encourage radicalisation are proposals to cut welfare payments to people engaged in extremist conduct and not having Islamic chaplains in schools. Add to all this the bewildering and varied individual vulnerabilities to radicalisation, the needles in the haystack: single parent households, drug use, criminal activity, religious conversion, mental illness.

The point of this exercise is not to weigh the merits of these theories. Suffice to say, some seem sensible enough, others less so. (The one that made me laugh out loud came from American commentator Lee Smith who asserted teenage girls in Europe are joining ISIL because the West can't offer them "meaning and purpose", all but laying the blame at the feet of One Direction.)

The problem with this loose talk about radicalisation is probably twofold. In the racism of low expectations it verges on casting Muslims as tinderbox volatile, at risk of exploding if the wrong thing is broadcast or said or done. On the flip side, there's a subtle intimidation at work. Everything we do is fatally wrong. We're damned if we move against extremism, we're damned if we don't - and should a catastrophic attack occur then sure as night follows day it'll be our fault.

Julie Szego is a Fairfax columnist, author and freelance journalist.
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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Rorschach » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:25 am

MAYOR REFUSES TO REMOVE PORK FROM SCHOOL CANTEEN MENU.. HE EXPLAINS WHY
Muslim parents demanded the abolition of pork in all the school
canteens of a Montreal suburb.
The mayor of the Montreal suburb of Dorval, has refused, and the town
clerk sent a note to all parents to explain why...
“Muslims must understand that they have to adapt to Canada and Quebec, its customs, its traditions, its way of life, because that's where
they chose to immigrate.

“They must understand that they have to integrate and learn to live in Quebec.
“They must understand that it is for them to change their lifestyle,
not the Canadians who so generously welcomed them.

“They must understand that Canadians are neither racist nor
xenophobic, they accepted many immigrants before Muslims
(Whereas the reverse is not true, in that Muslim states do not accept
non-Muslim immigrants).
“That no more than other nations, Canadians are not willing to give up
their identity, their culture.
“And if Canada is a land of welcome, it's not the Mayor of Dorval who
welcomes foreigners, but the Canadian-Quebecois people as a whole.
“Finally, they must understand that in Canada (Quebec) with its
Judeo-Christian roots, Christmas trees, churches and religious
festivals, religion must remain in the private domain.
The municipality of Dorval was right to refuse any concessions to
Islam and Sharia.
“For Muslims who disagree with secularism and do not feel comfortable
in Canada, there are 57 beautiful Muslim countries in the world, most
of them under-populated and ready to receive them with open halal arms
in accordance with Shariah.

“If you left your country for Canada, and not for other Muslim
countries, it is because you have considered that life is better in
Canada than elsewhere.
“Ask yourself the question, just once, “Why is it better here in
Canada than where you come from?”
“A canteen with pork is part of the answer.”
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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:15 pm

That's been around the traps a few times. Most recently it's supposedly from a Mayor in Belgium.

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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by boxy » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:31 pm

Posting right wing, racist lies on the forum? Tsk, tsk :oops:
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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by 5.56 NATO » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:38 pm

boxy wrote:Posting right wing, racist lies on the forum? Tsk, tsk :oops:
What is racist about it you stupid fukken idiot . It is all to do with a fluffy bunny of a religion and nothing about race. It is purely coincidental that Muslims generally come from more cunty races.
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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:46 pm

Nothing racist about it. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:29 pm

POLICE have cracked down on notorious radical Islamist preacher Junaid Thorne raiding his Sydney home.

Australian Federal Police yesterday raided the Perth-born man’s Bass Hill home and issued him with a court notice, a spokeswoman told news.com.au.

The 25-year-old self-styled sheik was charged with two offences including using a false identity to travel between Perth and Sydney.

Thorne provoked the ire of Australians online in recent weeks tweeting his support for the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris.

It’s not the first time his comments have enraged the community. In September he claimed his life was threatened after he took to Facebook to defended 18-year-old Numan Haider, who was shot dead after stabbing two police officers in Melbourne.

In a post headlined “Official Statement”, Mr Thorne questioned why “deadly force was immediately used” and said Haider was “murdered in cold blood”.

WA Police Commissioner Karl O’Callaghan has previously said Mr Thorne was being monitored.
In 2013, Mr Thorne was deported from Saudi Arabia where he had lived for more than 10 years when he protested against his older brother Shayden’s imprisonment on terrorism-related offences.
It has been reported authorities will likely consider cancelling Mr Thorne’s passport.

AFP confirmed to news.com.au the 25-year-old had been issued with a notice to attend a Perth court but the date is yet to be set.
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It will be interesting to see where this leads. More than likely .. nowhere.

Why bother cancelling his passport? To protect other countries from his hate? Saudia Arabia doesn't want him.

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Re: Immigration and Multiculturalism

Post by Rorschach » Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:52 pm

boxy wrote:Posting right wing, racist lies on the forum? Tsk, tsk :oops:
No just posting something that was sent to me.
Just posting something that speaks many truths.
Oh and toxic... since Islam is not a race it isn't racist or even racial you DOLT>
Also where's the RW stamp? Etc, etc... better take a bex and have good lie down, it'll help with the frothing. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Oh and BO never seen it in any form b4 myself. But I agree with it's sentiment 100%.
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