Negro gangs, 60 shop invasions

[Black Orchid]

As criminals relatively rarely have guns downunder, you are unlikely to face criminals with guns.

That is one of the biggest delusional lies you have spoken. You obviously live under a rock there in Podunk. Your ignorance is astounding.

Yeah, Black Orchid, every criminal has a gun, right?

Stop being ridiculous!

[brian ross]

As criminals relatively rarely have guns downunder, you are unlikely to face criminals with guns.

That is one of the biggest delusional lies you have spoken. You obviously live under a rock there in Podunk. Your ignorance is astounding.

Yeah, Black Orchid, every criminal has a gun, right?

Stop being ridiculous!

Yes, Black Orchid. So then, if not every criminal has a gun, why do you feel my original statement, "criminals relatively rarely have guns downunder," was ignorant? As a certain Red Headed politician likes to ask, "Please explain..."

[Bobby]

Why is it limited to only "Negros", Bobby? Other "races" could use the same tactic.

In the last 60 shop invasions it was Negroes involved. ( and some Islanders).

As for their supposed defencelessness, well we have just discussed that.
Then there are security staff and/or the Police who are paid to protect them.

Not much good if there are no cops there.

Insurance covers the cost, Bobby. You're right though, I'd rather see property stolen compared to cleaning up after a shooting.

Does insurance really cover it?
if so aren't we all indirectly paying for the robberies?

What about you? Do you want shootings all over the cities?

Not really - I'd prefer to see law and order.

The cops have arrested half of them.
Hopefully that will put a stop to it.

[brian ross]

The cops have arrested half of them.
Hopefully that will put a stop to it.

So what are we discussing then? Mmmm?

[Texan]

If only there was a way for a shop owner to protect his store and employees from violent crimes........

Warning: Someone is killed in this video.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bmYWc6ReJ ... verified=1

In Australia you're not allowed to use guns to defend yourself.

So if a violent mob walks into your home or business, you are not allowed to defend yourself. That sucks.

No, that is not how it works, Texan. You are allowed to defend yourself with what ever weapons you feel you need to do so - consummate with the threat that you are faced with. That includes guns. You are not allowed to own guns for self-defence though. Doesn't mean you cannot use them for self-defence. As criminals relatively rarely have guns downunder, you are unlikely to face criminals with guns. If you use a gun, you must demonstrate in court that you feared for yourself or your loved ones' lives. Criminals have rights and if you kill one, you must face court (usually on a manslaughter charge).

It's 2 am and you are awoken by someone breaking into your house and your house is dark inside. What weapon do you take with you to respond to the intruder? Does the intruder RSVP by text and let you know in advance how many are in his party and what weapons they will bring? How does that work so that you don't bring too much weapon as your response?

You know how this works in Texas. I decide between 9mm pistol, 12 ga shotgun, or AR-15. I make sure that the target isn't family or guest and light them up unless I can see them, see that they are unarmed, and they obey my commands. Meanwhile, my wife is waiting in the bedroom with her pistol while she calls the police. The only "unarmed" person in the house is my 17 year old son. He is bigger than most adults and swings a mean baseball bat.

[Bobby]

The cops have arrested half of them.
Hopefully that will put a stop to it.

So what are we discussing then? Mmmm?

At the moment we're discussing your silly statements.

[Bobby]

It's 2 am and you are awoken by someone breaking into your house and your house is dark inside. What weapon do you take with you to respond to the intruder? Does the intruder RSVP by text and let you know in advance how many are in his party and what weapons they will bring? How does that work so that you don't bring too much weapon as your response?

You know how this works in Texas. I decide between 9mm pistol, 12 ga shotgun, or AR-15. I make sure that the target isn't family or guest and light them up unless I can see them, see that they are unarmed, and they obey my commands. Meanwhile, my wife is waiting in the bedroom with her pistol while she calls the police. The only "unarmed" person in the house is my 17 year old son. He is bigger than most adults and swings a mean baseball bat.

Hi Texan,
So - if you were a shop owner - in Texas -
how would defend against a dozen Negroes running into your shop and
stealing everything in sight while you watched?
Let's say it was 50 or 60 mobile phones and a whole bunch of computer laptops
that were on the way - going out the door - but no gun was pointed at you.

[Texan]

It's 2 am and you are awoken by someone breaking into your house and your house is dark inside. What weapon do you take with you to respond to the intruder? Does the intruder RSVP by text and let you know in advance how many are in his party and what weapons they will bring? How does that work so that you don't bring too much weapon as your response?

You know how this works in Texas. I decide between 9mm pistol, 12 ga shotgun, or AR-15. I make sure that the target isn't family or guest and light them up unless I can see them, see that they are unarmed, and they obey my commands. Meanwhile, my wife is waiting in the bedroom with her pistol while she calls the police. The only "unarmed" person in the house is my 17 year old son. He is bigger than most adults and swings a mean baseball bat.

Hi Texan,
So - if you were a shop owner - in Texas -
how would defend against a dozen Negroes running into your shop and
stealing everything in sight while you watched?
Let's say it was 50 or 60 mobile phones and a whole bunch of computer laptops
that were on the way - going out the door - but no gun was pointed at you.

If one of them displays a deadly weapon,(knife, gun, club, screwdriver, whatever) I can shoot them. If not, I tackle one of them or disable them with a club, pepper spray, or stun gun.(stun gun fits in my pocket and puts out 10k volts) If they decide to gang up on me, then I draw my gun. I can fire a warning shot, but I am liable for wherever that bullet lands. They will either produce weapons or run at this point. I hold one of them until the police arrive to identify the others. Being an electronics store, there will be plenty of video footage. There is also a provision that you can use deadly force to protect your property, but it's not very clear and I don't want to kill somebody over stuff, especially if it's insured.

Since I have these options and the criminals know it, mass robberies (or flash mob robberies) don't happen very often and almost never at high end stores where stealing the merchandise constitutes a felony. If one is caught, they are all felons. If I justifiably kill one of them, they are all charged with his murder as accomplices committing a felony. Many businesses hire off duty police to wear their uniform and act as security.

Every once in a while, you will see a flash mob robbery at a convenience store. They will steal food and cigarettes mostly. Since the merchandise is not expensive enough to constitute a felony and there are only 1 or 2 employees in the store, the risk is low and the police are less likely to use very many resources on a misdemeanor crime. With security cameras outside recording license plate numbers on the cars, it's hard to get away with the crime.

This one happened about 20km from my house in South Dallas a few years ago. I don't know the outcome. I haven't heard of any others in Dallas since. I'm sure there haven't been many.

[brian ross]

The cops have arrested half of them.
Hopefully that will put a stop to it.

So what are we discussing then? Mmmm?

At the moment we're discussing your silly statements.

Silly in what way, Bobby. I'm curious...

[Bobby]

The cops have arrested half of them.
Hopefully that will put a stop to it.

So what are we discussing then? Mmmm?

At the moment we're discussing your silly statements.

Silly in what way, Bobby. I'm curious...

All answered above in my long reply with quotes.