Global Warming

[IQS.RLOW]

You could have just said you have nothing to offer and no ability to argue against my point that feedbacks are ever being discovered that disprove the catastrophic in the global warming proponents argument, but I guess being as stupid as you are you were unable to do that so all you had was your pathetic little rant of no substance whatsoever.

Come back and try again when you've grown up abit. You can check by unpeeling your granny panties from your cheese laden crack and seeing if you have any grass on the mound.

[IQS.RLOW]

PS...thanks again for confirming you are still the dumbest fluffy bunny on the Internet. A title you have held for over a fucking decade. Which is surprising...I thought your STDs would have surely killed you by now.

[Outlaw Yogi]

18+ years of no warming.

What a fairytale.
The so called pause in atmospheric heating was absorbed by the oceans (Pacific ocean in particular) which is going to cause even more under sea floor (frozen) CH4/methane clathrate thawing, which in turn will generate even faster heating.

The 10 hottest years on record have all been since 1998, which means this so called pause in GW is just bunkum.

Wonder when or if the denialists will ever come up with a plausible alternate cause for the phenomena that just won't go away?

My guess is never.

Ultimately, GW is a good thing, because the denialists won't be prepared for reality.
They'll probably all sit in the Church of Obfuscation and prey for it to go away.

What a fairy tale, my guess is you gullible global warming alarmists will go on excusing all subsequent feedback effects as they are slowly rolled out as excuse after excuse as to why your catastrophes fail to eventuate and you are left bitterly disappointed that once again, the lefty scum are caught with their pants down and their grasping hands away from the cookie jar. It's the oceans that have foiled you now, what will it be next week when your gullible stupidity shoved that fresh crow straight down your stupid gob?

I'm hardly gullible. Long before the GW phenomena became a topic of debate I reasearched not just the details f the current GW, but those in Earth's history too. Then I researched all the potential causes, both known and speculated, and even looked into theories of my own.

So far, the only feasible alternate cause for the current GW is 'Precession of the Equinoxes/Axial Precession' which I suspect is partyly to blame, but GHGs, especially CH4 and NO2 are the biggest culprits. CO2 plays a part but not as much as CH4 and NO2.
So the reality is a combination of factors are causing the oceans to rise at an ever increasing pace, polar regions and glaciers are melting away, low lying land is being submerged, and people like you say "It's not happening". That's why I say GW is ultimately a good thing, because it's nature's way of cleaning up useless ignorants.

I suspect you are too frightened to look at the reality. Fact is, GW began 18,000 years ago at the end of the last glacial maximum, and since that time the oceans have risen 120 metres. I used to be able to access a link showing how much land was lost to the oceans from that 120 metre ocean rise.

I noticed so called experts were citing various thaws individually. I figured as it's a global phenomenon all the thaws should be calculated accumulatively, and came up with details indicating the oceans could potentially rise another 90 metres.

Figuring the result will probably not wind up the worst case scenario, I proposeda potential ocean level rise of 80 metres. Which Tim Flannery plagiarised. Then I got out topographical maps to see how far inland the new coast will be, and how far up rivers and creeks the tides will come.

If you're so convinced GW is not happening, then you should go buy a waterfront home. But don't expect any sympathy when you can't get insurance, or expect rate payers to fork out for rock walls to keep the tide out of your lounge room.

[Super Nova]

Well climate deniers...... what if the facts of current measurements start to show their is real warming and the pause is over.....

IQ, in 2 to 3 years time I expect you can come back and tell us all about how you were wrong...........

pause in global warming might be over.
The world is on track to reach a record high temperature this year — prompting fears that a pause in global warming might be over.

The past 12-month period has been the warmest on record, and temperatures this year have set a record for January to April, at 0.68C above normal. Record highs have been reached in countries as far apart as Ghana, Venezuela and Palau in the Pacific.

Antarctica had its warmest recorded day on March 14 this year, reaching 17.4C (63.3 F), while sea ice in the Arctic was at its lowest known winter maximum.

“There’s a pretty good chance of the global record being broken this year,” said Adam Scaife, at the Met Office. “Last December we forecast that this year would set a new record, around 0.64C above the norm, and global temperatures are higher so far this year than at this stage in 2014.”

Climate-change sceptics have seized on a hiatus in global warming in the past 15 years, with temperatures creeping up more slowly than in previous decades. However, the record highs in 2014 and 2015 suggest that that period might be ending, with the world rapidly heating up again. “The pause may be over but we can’t say that for sure after only two years of data. We need a few more years of global temperature data,” Professor Scaife said. “Global warming is not always a steady increase in temperatures, because of variability in the Earth’s climate, and that gives fluctuations from year to year.”

Other alarm bells are also ringing this year, with the Arctic warming faster than anywhere else. “We had less ice this winter in the Arctic than any other winter during the satellite era,” said Jeff Key, at the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Association. With less ice, the Arctic will absorb more solar energy over the summer, sending temperatures higher still.

Some scientists now believe that the warming Arctic is also affecting weather patterns in North America, Europe and Asia by affecting the jet stream, which drives storms through the temperature regions — including the UK. “What happens in the Arctic doesn’t stay in the Arctic,” Dr Key said.

A milestone was passed in March when average global carbon dioxide levels in the air went above 400 parts per million for the first time on record. Scientists believe this will make it difficult to stay within safe levels of warming.

Danger signs were also seen in the balance between land and sea temperatures, Professor Scaife said. “It’s the land temperature that’s warming faster than the oceans, and this is what’s expected from climate change.”

Some of the recent warming can be explained by a new El Niño, as tropical waters in the Pacific grow warmer, so driving up world temperatures. Yet the world got hotter last year when El Niño was only in its nascent stages, and most observers are predicting only a moderate effect. El Niño peaks between December and February, with a sharp rise in global temperatures some time later.

Surging global temperatures do not, however, guarantee a barbecue summer for Britain, because many other factors affect the weather in this country.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/environme ... 451254.ece

[IQS.RLOW]

pause in global warming might be over.

keep grasping those straws in your desperation to cover up your pathetic chicken little panic merchant weak as piss stance. You and your ilk haven't been right yet even once. I wouldn't go thinking anything has changed including your closed mind.

[Super Nova]

pause in global warming might be over.

keep grasping those straws in your desperation to cover up your pathetic chicken little panic merchant weak as piss stance. You and your ilk haven't been right yet even once. I wouldn't go thinking anything has changed including your closed mind.

Science is about probabilities. they use the word "might" to be accurate.

I am happy to put a wager on this.

My mind is open to understanding how things work and form my own view. My view is that global warming will be a real problem for humanity if we don't start taking corrective and preventive action.

Your view is... it's all bull because they failed to forecast correctly 15-20 years ago. So be it.

The current recording of temperatures is indicating the warming is and will continue and some... note the some... models forecast a rapid increase in temperature when the pause stops.

Risk are only worth mitigating if the:
Probability is too high
The impact is to high

I am stating:
1. the understanding of the probability improves and this is high as predicted
2. the impact is not acceptable and high

We should take action and mitigate and adapt because it is too late to stop it in it's tracks.

[IQS.RLOW]

You only have faith SN.

It's exactly the same as religious faith and you proselytise as much or more than the most pious missionary. You also have exactly the same amount of scientific evidence of CAGW as a religious nut has of the second coming.

You are exactly the same. There is no difference between your beliefs.
They are both based on nothing but faith.

...and you know it.

[Super Nova]

You only have faith SN.

It's exactly the same as religious faith and you proselytise as much or more than the most pious missionary. You also have exactly the same amount of scientific evidence of CAGW as a religious nut has of the second coming.

You are exactly the same. There is no difference between your beliefs.
They are both based on nothing but faith.

...and you know it.

No.

I look at the models, theories and then the evidence that supports the projections.

I form a view.

To be honest I need to have some faith in those that have bigger brains than mine or those that have spent their lives seeking to understand specialist topics. The yare experts. So I do defer to an expert opinion when the detail is beyond my ability to crunch or absorb. That is not blind faith.

Blind faith is believing because there can never be evidence to prove the faith.

There is evidence. On the other hand you have a faith that is to ignore expert opinion. You have faith in your views above those that are expert. You are not open minded to change if more evidence comes in that support those theories you do not agree with. You are rigid and non-scientific.

Casting doubt..... is fine. The theory should be under great scrutiny. I support your right to be skeptical. However you will find over time, you will be faced with more and more data that points to the basic thrust of the global warming theory being true.

The real sad bit is the image below is true.

[IQS.RLOW]

No, you have faith. Nothing but blind faith.

You emphatically believe in the catastrophic premonitions of your high priests and insist everyone must pay penance to your CAGW gods to appease their anger or woe betide the unbelievers.

You are a joke.

[IQS.RLOW]

There is evidence. On the other hand you have a faith that is to ignore expert opinion. You have faith in your views above those that are expert. You are not open minded to change if more evidence comes in that support those theories you do not agree with. You are rigid and non-scientific.

There has been no global warming for 18 years.
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?

You blindly ignore the science and the facts and claim that nothing has changed. We will still all be rooooned. How do you reconcile your "science" when you ignore the facts?