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brian ross
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by brian ross » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:08 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:59 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:50 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:38 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:31 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:28 pm
Really? How many flock to agree with you Brian? Looks around ...
Look outside your basement, BO. The Internet is hardly representational of the general population and it's views.
Yes it is Brian. Don't you proclaim that constantly about those ridiculously biased Scanlon surveys? You know? The ones you do online in any language you want and get paid?
Who the frig cares about survey respondents being paid or not? Or what language they conduct the survey in? I don't. Again, the internet is not representational of the general population, BO. Face up to reality for a change.
Brian stop cherry picking! If the internet is not representative of the general population you have just shot a major hole in your foot by continually quoting that idiotic and biased multiculturalism internet survey which is definitely NOT representative of the majority of Australians as you so proclaim (from an internet survey).
Not cherry picking in the slightest. The survey was scientifically conducted. It took into account that some people don't speak English all that well and allowed them to undertake the survey in their own languages. I have found no reference to respondents being paid to undertake that survey. So, unless you provide a link to where that is stated, I don't believe it to be the case.
BO, the reality is that the Internet is not representational of the general population. You need a computer, you need a router/modem and you need an ISP account to access the Internet. Not everybody has them. It is like the 1948 claim that Truman hadn't won the election in the US. It was based on a false result gained by a telephone survey. Guess what? Not everybody in the US owned a telephone in those days, so the results were falsely skewed towards the Republicans, over the Democrats. The newspapers went with the survey outcome for an early edition with banner headlines. The real result was that Truman won - fair and square.
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FLEKTARN
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by FLEKTARN » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:09 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:55 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:23 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:46 pm
Because it offends some people? No, of course not. their views are not important, hey? Typical neo-Nazi viewpoint.
Outlawing forms of expression and/or language to appease a small minority is not Neo-Nazism. A minority of people choose to be offended by anything and everything and need to harden up.
Modern liberal democratic society exists to protect the minorities' viewpoint and rights. Otherwise all you're proposing is the dictatorship of the majority, BO. Without such views, society is made less. Without those protections your views would not be heard. Despite what you may proclaim, you're very much in the minority.
"Modern liberal democratic society exists to protect the minorities' viewpoint and rights."
But do they really need ... PROTECTING?
Let's see...
European Australians: 17,500,000
Bulgarians: 6,000,000 in Bulgaria / 263,320 in Germany
Hungarians: 8,504,492
Poles: 38,080,000
Danes: 4,996,980
Syrians: 17,185,170
Moroccans: 36,191,805
Bangladeshi: 162,951,560
Pakistanis: 212,742,631
Algerians: 42,200,000
Should I ... keep going?
The one that says the least can often have a very different perspective and hold the answer. The least qualified person may hold the most wisdom. When you don’t have knowledge or experience blocking your perspective, you can see problems and solutions.
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:23 pm
Please do. You're making a huge fool of yourself in doing so.
We are discussing Australia, not overseas. As you're not an Australian, I can understand your ignorance of this country and it's demographics and it's politics. Enjoy yourself in your little kiddies' playground.
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:25 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:23 pm
Please do. You're making a huge fool of yourself in doing so.
We are discussing Australia, not overseas. As you're not an Australian, I can understand your ignorance of this country and it's demographics and it's politics. Enjoy yourself in your little kiddies' playground.
We are discussing everywhere this is occurring Brian so lighten up and stop being childish.
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brian ross
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by brian ross » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:28 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:25 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:23 pm
Please do. You're making a huge fool of yourself in doing so.
We are discussing Australia, not overseas. As you're not an Australian, I can understand your ignorance of this country and it's demographics and it's politics. Enjoy yourself in your little kiddies' playground.
We are discussing everywhere this is occurring Brian so lighten up and stop being childish.
Oh, and Flecktarn isn't? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Looks like some favouritism there, BO. Tut, tut.
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Black Orchid
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by Black Orchid » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:33 pm
Looks to me like he is trying to present you with facts and you are responding with nothing but insults.
He is a minority here, Brian, and we know how you love minorities and their opinions. One would think you would be opening up your heart and inviting him inside.
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FLEKTARN
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by FLEKTARN » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:38 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:23 pm
Please do. You're making a huge fool of yourself in doing so.
We are discussing Australia, not overseas. As you're not an Australian, I can understand your ignorance of this country and it's demographics and it's politics. Enjoy yourself in your little kiddies' playground.
This "minority" you're talking about, Aussie, will not be a "minority" in 20 years. I promise you that. I am well aware on Australian matters; more that you're into on European occurrences.
Fertility rate on Australians.
I can assure you this is NOT the graph for the recently came immigrants from mainly China and from Black Asia.
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FLEKTARN
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by FLEKTARN » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:44 pm
Black Orchid wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:33 pm
Looks to me like he is trying to present you with facts and you are responding with nothing but insults.
He is a minority here, Brian, and we know how you love minorities and their opinions. One would think you would be opening up your heart and inviting him inside.
He maybe denominates only those who demand "free money and expenditures" to be minorities that match his criteria for a "minority".
Census 2016 data available everywhere is revealing little more than half of the AUS residents — 50.7 percent — have two Australian-born parents. This is down from 54 per cent in the 2011 census.
The Philippines has swapped places with Italy in the top 10 “country of birth” list, moving from number eight to number six.
And more than a quarter of the AUS residents (26.3 percent) are now born overseas, and for the first time in history, the majority of people born abroad are from Asia, not Europe.
The one that says the least can often have a very different perspective and hold the answer. The least qualified person may hold the most wisdom. When you don’t have knowledge or experience blocking your perspective, you can see problems and solutions.
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by brian ross » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:50 pm
FLEKTARN wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:38 pm
brian ross wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:23 pm
Please do. You're making a huge fool of yourself in doing so.
We are discussing Australia, not overseas. As you're not an Australian, I can understand your ignorance of this country and it's demographics and it's politics. Enjoy yourself in your little kiddies' playground.
This "minority" you're talking about, Aussie, will not be a "minority" in 20 years. I promise you that. I am well aware on Australian matters; more that you're into on European occurrences.
Amazing what Dr. Google can tell you, hey?
I know sufficient to know that some East Europeans worship neo-Naziism. Like you. Which is interesting, considering how bad the Nazis were in WWII...
I can assure you this is NOT the graph for the recently came immigrants from mainly China and from Black Asia.
Migrants invariably become aspirational - their birth rates all decrease in the first or second generations to the same as the dominant cultural groups. Demographers agree that making predictions on today's birth rates are fraught with difficulties because such predictions fail to take into account the aspirational nature of Australian citizenship, contraception, etc. 2-3% will never outbreed the other 97-98% of the population, unless the other 97-98% cease breeding entirely - which is simply not going to happen. Tut, tut, shot down in flames yet again.
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by FLEKTARN » Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:07 pm
The one that says the least can often have a very different perspective and hold the answer. The least qualified person may hold the most wisdom. When you don’t have knowledge or experience blocking your perspective, you can see problems and solutions.
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