The Hidden Hand of ISIS: An American Fuck-Up

[freediver]

What would be the point of invading if you left Saddam's regime in control?

That anti-Baathist purge working out you say?

You didn't answer the question. Do you think if you chop the head off a dictatorship you kill it?

[Rorschach]

A nuclear power?

yes Troll... wassup showing your ignorance of the facts again... you really do need to stop trolling in places you have no knowledge about.

[Outlaw Yogi]

A nuclear power?

Was it too difficult to work out what he was getting at?

So you're implying Saddam's revenge being a Stalinist Islamic State regime with a jihadi face is preferable to Saddam's Stalinist Bath regime? ... which until it nationalised Iraqi oil had US backing.

[Outlaw Yogi]

A nuclear power?

yes Troll... wassup showing your ignorance of the facts again... you really do need to stop trolling in places you have no knowledge about.

Israel bombed Iraq's sole (German supplied) reactor long before U$A & Co invaded in 2003 due to Saddam selling oil for Euros but under the pretense of Weapons of Mass Disappearance. So how is a country with no nuclear reactor a nuclear power, Brainstorm?

Which begs the question, why are you displaying your ignorance?

[Outlaw Yogi]

What would be the point of invading if you left Saddam's regime in control?

That anti-Baathist purge working out you say?

You didn't answer the question. Do you think if you chop the head off a dictatorship you kill it?

Well it seems killing their former buddy, the dictator nor his Bath regime has killed the monster.

In yogic lore this entire scenario is an example of what is termed "Raktabija syndrome".

In Markandeya Purana, a mythical story about a 5000 year long war by the gods (later pilfered and partially reproduced by Christians to create 'the Apocolypse of St John'), the gods fought the boss rakshasa/demon Raktabija.
Their blows/strikes were ineffective, so they sought Indra's help because he had a special dart that could penetrate anything. But for every drop of Raktabija's blood that hit the Earth, a new monster grew in his likeness.
They didn't want to seek Shiva's aid because Shiva gets very cranky if you wake him up and has destructive tantrums. So they got his feminine alter ego Kali to help. She killed the 2 mosters Shimba and Nishimba that grew from Raktabija's blood, and as the gods battled Raktabija Kali licked his wounds to prevent the creation of new monsters.

[freediver]

A nuclear power?

Was it too difficult to work out what he was getting at?

So you're implying Saddam's revenge being a Stalinist Islamic State regime with a jihadi face is preferable to Saddam's Stalinist Bath regime? ... which until it nationalised Iraqi oil had US backing.

Of course not, but I do not expect ISIS to win. But ISIS should give you a good idea of the consequences of leaving Saddam's regime in charge. Would you prefer the people running ISIS had control of the Iraqi military, police, public service, tax base etc? This is what all the whingers are forgetting. There's no point complaining about the dissolution of the regime unless you are willing to suggest that leaving the regime in place would have been a better idea. Either you have a better way, or you must acknowledge that despite the consequences, dissolving the regime was the best option, and you are merely cursing at windmills.

In Markandeya Purana, a mythical story about a 5000 year long war by the gods (later pilfered and partially reproduced by Christians to create 'the Apocolypse of St John'), the gods fought the boss rakshasa/demon Raktabija.
Their blows/strikes were ineffective, so they sought Indra's help because he had a special dart that could penetrate anything. But for every drop of Raktabija's blood that hit the Earth, a new monster grew in his likeness.
They didn't want to seek Shiva's aid because Shiva gets very cranky if you wake him up and has destructive tantrums. So they got his feminine alter ego Kali to help. She killed the 2 mosters Shimba and Nishimba that grew from Raktabija's blood, and as the gods battled Raktabija Kali licked his wounds to prevent the creation of new monsters.

Are you suggesting we yield to fascism because you cannot stomach fighting against it? Or do you want to lick it's arse? Is there something special about ISIS that makes it different from ever other fascist regime we have taken on and conquered? Or have you fallen victim to some kind of noble savage fantasy that makes ISIS invincible? Can you suggest a better option than fighting ISIS, or is this more cursing at windmills?

[IQS.RLOW]

A nuclear power?

Was it too difficult to work out what he was getting at?

So you're implying Saddam's revenge being a Stalinist Islamic State regime with a jihadi face is preferable to Saddam's Stalinist Bath regime? ... which until it nationalised Iraqi oil had US backing.

No, I was implying that boxy was too stupid to figure out what a "nuclear power" was.

[AiA in Atlanta]

What would be the point of invading if you left Saddam's regime in control?

That anti-Baathist purge working out you say?

You didn't answer the question. Do you think if you chop the head off a dictatorship you kill it?

You are asking the wrong question. Instead you should ask why did America not oppose the ending of denazification efforts in the very early 1950's and allowed former low-level Nazis to go back into the civil service.

[Rorschach]

A nuclear power?

yes Troll... wassup showing your ignorance of the facts again... you really do need to stop trolling in places you have no knowledge about.

Israel bombed Iraq's sole (German supplied) reactor long before U$A & Co invaded in 2003 due to Saddam selling oil for Euros but under the pretense of Weapons of Mass Disappearance. So how is a country with no nuclear reactor a nuclear power, Brainstorm?

Which begs the question, why are you displaying your ignorance?

Wassup? You as ignorant as poxy on this topic too eh?

[freediver]

You are asking the wrong question. Instead you should ask why did America not oppose the ending of denazification efforts in the very early 1950's and allowed former low-level Nazis to go back into the civil service.

That would be a reasonable question, if you agree that de-Nazification and de-Baathification were good ideas. Otherwise it is merely a deflection.