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mantra
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by mantra » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:33 pm
Can't help yourself can you... if you really wanted to know you'd do what I do... look it up.
No I couldn't be bothered looking up your copy and pastes to determine whether they're fact or fiction. Make parental paid leave mandatory if that's what Australians want - but make the employer pay, not the taxpayer. There would be very few nations whose governments would be forking out billions of dollars for parental leave.
Aren't we supposed to be in dire financial straits - so why this pork barreling of $6 billion plus annually?
Plough wrote:I am totaly oposed to the state funding peoples procreation choices. Do the math before you have kids and accept that a cost of having kids is a loss of wages. Tax dollars can go toward far more appropriate things.
It is a personal choice to have children and for 200 years parents have managed quite well without the handouts. The last decade or so you would think the nation was handicapped the way government assistance has been thrown at every man and his dog.
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The Artist formerly known as Sappho
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by The Artist formerly known as Sappho » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:34 pm
Aussie wrote:The Artist formerly known as Sappho wrote:Plough wrote:I am totaly oposed to the state funding peoples procreation choices. Do the math before you have kids and accept that a cost of having kids is a loss of wages. Tax dollars can go toward far more appropriate things.
Or, parents could choose to view it as an investment.
How does that work Sappho, especially if a woman is earning nothing like $150,000 pa?
I don't like the idea of putting a price on children and from that price deciding that they are a liability. Children are an invaluable asset worthy of investing in.
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Aussie
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by Aussie » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:41 pm
I don't like the idea of putting a price on children and from that price deciding that they are a liability. Children are an invaluable asset worthy of investing in.
I still don't get what you are saying.
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Rorschach
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by Rorschach » Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:51 pm
No I couldn't be bothered looking up your copy and pastes to determine whether they're fact or fiction.
I don't post fiction mantra or try to pass it off as fact. Unlike some.
Make parental paid leave mandatory if that's what Australians want - but make the employer pay, not the taxpayer. There would be very few nations whose governments would be forking out billions of dollars for parental leave.
You mean like Labor already have?
Aren't we supposed to be in dire financial straits - so why this pork barreling of $6 billion plus annually?
No it is not pork barreling... it is a policy Abbott came up with a while back. It isn't middle-class welfare either or money for the rich as everyone with a job, having a child, is entitled to it.
It is funded largely by companies who can afford it since the company tax cut is the same as the levy.
Lots of Labor waste that gets cut would also pay for it.
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