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Re: What we are not being told

Post by Black Orchid » Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:04 pm

Even with the vaccination we still won't be able to travel. That, in itself, should give off warning signals to those with any doubt.

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Re: What we are not being told

Post by billy the kid » Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:27 pm

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/norway-cov ... s-no-link/
Im confused....
The report states that the patients "died from their underlying disease.."
I see....
An elderly person who receives the vaccine dies from their underlying disease.....
BUT when a person who dies who has comorbidities....
THAT person dies FROM covid19....
Is that a contradiction...or is that a contradiction....
Lies.....all lies.....
How can a person who dies after receiving the vaccine die from their comorbidity
YET someone who dies WITH comorbidities dies FROM covid....
Yet after releasing this report, health authorities in Norway
issued their "disclaimer" by saying..."doctors should individually consider whether patients who are frail or terminally ill should receive the vaccine, as is also recommended in some other countries."
I wonder if this advice will be given in Australia...
OR will we all be coerced by the politicians and their paid shills....the media...
to take the jab....
Something stinks here....
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Re: What we are not being told

Post by billy the kid » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:19 pm

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/pf ... d=msedgdhp
What a fkn disgrace....
Wont be available to those over 80...
WHY....
Well..... if youre over 80 it might kill you....
What if youre 79...you can have the vaccine....
BUT we're pretty sure.....
IT WONT KILL YOU.....
Because youre only 79....
AND still no advice from the grubberment as to who consents for the jab in people
suffering from dementia....
And the rollout is only weeks away.....
What a shambolic, pathetic govermental system we have in this country....
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Re: What we are not being told

Post by Black Orchid » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:47 pm

Well I'm a long way from seeing 80 but I won't be having it.

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Re: What we are not being told

Post by Bobby » Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:18 pm

Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:47 pm
Well I'm a long way from seeing 80 but I won't be having it.

I'll get it.
I'm far more fearful of catching Covid and dying or getting very sick -
than I am of getting any vaccine and dying.
I've had the flu vax for about 20 years now and I've always been OK after it.

I nearly died twice from the flu so I am prepared to do anything to not go through that again.

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Re: What we are not being told

Post by billy the kid » Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:50 pm

Bobby wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:18 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:47 pm
Well I'm a long way from seeing 80 but I won't be having it.

I'll get it.
I'm far more fearful of catching Covid and dying or getting very sick -
than I am of getting any vaccine and dying.
I've had the flu vax for about 20 years now and I've always been OK after it.

I nearly died twice from the flu so I am prepared to do anything to not go through that again.

:thumb
Thats fair enough....
Im just suggesting that people everywhere should have the right to decide if they want the
vaccine or not.
I dont think people should be coerced into taking the jab simply because
some politician threatens a ludicrous denial of entry into a government building if you dont get the vaccine.
Plus people should not be compelled to take the vaccine to keep their job.
This is simply a denial of civil rights.
Some Australian States have a Charter of Civil Rights.
I dont think NSW has...
If say Victoria has a Civil Rights Charter which suggests that Mandatory vaccines
cannot occur...it would be very interesting to see if Dan proposes to pass alternate legislation
which states the opposite...
Which legislation would have to be adhered to by the public....
Could be a can of worms for any Premier wanting mandatory vaccinations....
Personally, I dont think any state will make it mandatory..
They will simply leave it up to industries, businesses and unions....
AND it will still be a can of worms....
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Re: What we are not being told

Post by Bobby » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:04 pm

billy the kid wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:50 pm
Bobby wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:18 pm
Black Orchid wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:47 pm
Well I'm a long way from seeing 80 but I won't be having it.

I'll get it.
I'm far more fearful of catching Covid and dying or getting very sick -
than I am of getting any vaccine and dying.
I've had the flu vax for about 20 years now and I've always been OK after it.

I nearly died twice from the flu so I am prepared to do anything to not go through that again.

:thumb
Thats fair enough....
Im just suggesting that people everywhere should have the right to decide if they want the
vaccine or not.
I dont think people should be coerced into taking the jab simply because
some politician threatens a ludicrous denial of entry into a government building if you dont get the vaccine.
Plus people should not be compelled to take the vaccine to keep their job.
This is simply a denial of civil rights.
Some Australian States have a Charter of Civil Rights.
I dont think NSW has...
If say Victoria has a Civil Rights Charter which suggests that Mandatory vaccines
cannot occur...it would be very interesting to see if Dan proposes to pass alternate legislation
which states the opposite...
Which legislation would have to be adhered to by the public....
Could be a can of worms for any Premier wanting mandatory vaccinations....
Personally, I dont think any state will make it mandatory..
They will simply leave it up to industries, businesses and unions....
AND it will still be a can of worms....

I don't think it can be made mandatory but with Dirty Dan you never know.
He took away our human rights without our consent and the Governor of Victoria
didn't do anything to stop him.

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Re: What we are not being told

Post by billy the kid » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:30 am

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/nyc-d ... s-too-cold
Vaccines too hot.... vaccines too cold....
The word "trust" comes to mind...
Here in Ostraya, our grubberment is trusting two companies....DHL and Linfox to distribute
the vaccine..
Once distributed it is then up to the individual "injecters"...whether that is a hospital, medical
centre, pharmacy...whatever...to store the vaccine, and then "dilute" each dose with the necessary
salt based saline...then inject it into someones arm....
The "patient" then jumps into his/her/its car and drives home, hoping not to have any
side effects whilst driving down the freeway/through busy city streets/jumping on a bus/tram/pushbike
to get back home/to work....whatever....
All the while without a guarantee that the vaccine works, except for what we are told,
and all the while not being able to sue anyone (in the case of side effects etc...) as there is a disclaimer in place....
Sounds like a lot of trust to me......
Sounds like a lot of faith to me...
Blind faith perhaps..... :roll:
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Re: What we are not being told

Post by Texan » Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:54 pm

billy the kid wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:30 am
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/nyc-d ... s-too-cold
Vaccines too hot.... vaccines too cold....
The word "trust" comes to mind...
Here in Ostraya, our grubberment is trusting two companies....DHL and Linfox to distribute
the vaccine..
Once distributed it is then up to the individual "injecters"...whether that is a hospital, medical
centre, pharmacy...whatever...to store the vaccine, and then "dilute" each dose with the necessary
salt based saline...then inject it into someones arm....
The "patient" then jumps into his/her/its car and drives home, hoping not to have any
side effects whilst driving down the freeway/through busy city streets/jumping on a bus/tram/pushbike
to get back home/to work....whatever....
All the while without a guarantee that the vaccine works, except for what we are told,
and all the while not being able to sue anyone (in the case of side effects etc...) as there is a disclaimer in place....
Sounds like a lot of trust to me......
Sounds like a lot of faith to me...
Blind faith perhaps..... :roll:
That's why I wouldn't jump to be first in line. Let them get the process down and make sure that it doesn't make people drop dead or become sterile. If the vaccine is working, everyone will benefit from the herd immunity.

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Re: What we are not being told

Post by billy the kid » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:25 pm

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/rig ... -positives
Very interesting article on PCR tests for covid...
Of course ZH was telling us about this months and months ago...
Meanwhile in Australia, all the sheep are gleefully looking forward to getting the jab,
obediently wearing their muzzles, practicing the government narrative to socially distance
and generally bow down to our masters...
AND yet, there has been no conjob19 deaths since October, 2020...
The last death from the conjob virus in Queensland was in April, 2020..
6 deaths in total for Qld....
Wheres the plandemic....
Its gone...
Its been gone since October....
Are we being conned....
Yes Jason...
Should we protest...
No Jason...that would be reckless and dangerous... :rofl
To discover those who rule over you, first discover those who you cannot criticize...Voltaire
Its coming...the rest of the world versus islam....or is it here already...

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