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Re: Knife sharpening

Post by sprintcyclist » Wed May 15, 2019 3:42 pm

Don't sharpen your knives this way

.......... Gordon Dempsey, knifemaker in Kenai Alaska was killed Oct. 24 when the buffer wheel grabbed a knife away from him and hurled it tip first into his chest. He was 67 and sold his first knife in 1974! ..................
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Re: Knife sharpening

Post by Neferti » Wed May 15, 2019 3:49 pm

Like I said, knives are dangerous. ;)

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Re: Knife sharpening

Post by sprintcyclist » Wed May 15, 2019 5:36 pm

Neferti~ wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 3:49 pm
Like I said, knives are dangerous. ;)
You was right
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Re: Knife sharpening

Post by Valkie » Wed May 15, 2019 5:56 pm

sprintcyclist wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 1:40 pm
........ Valkie wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2019 7:22 pm
I use an Ruixin knife sharpener for all my knives
You can accurately set the handle and ensure a true and accurate finish.
For blunt knives I start with 120 stone and work my way down to 1200 stone. ....
' ...... Ruixin knife sharpener......... ' - yes, that would make a big difference.
I have 3 combination water stones I use. So am hesitant to buy one of those as my old stones will not be able to be used.

2 of the stones are soft ones, good for hard knives. My Tojiros.
1 is a harder one, better for soft knives. All the others ..... garden knives

I use measured marked perspex blocks to get the right angle for different knives and different angles.
Am working on a jig that is compatible with my water stones to hold the knives at the right angle.
I'm an old time carpenter.
I sharpen my own tools, including my plane and wood chisel.
I have a wet stone/ oil stone for this and I made several brass mounts for the chisel and plane blades to keep the angles perfect.

But chisel and plane blades are square, easy to use in a jig and I use the old figure 8 sharpening technique.

But knives aren't straight, they curve, so the Ruixin is near perfect for them.
But.....
I had to mount the tool on a wooden base for stability
I modified the runners and the tools to maintain a better angle.
You can also purchase carbide or diamond "stones" which are really impregnated metal.
Being a traditionalist I prefer real stones, but I wash them after use.
As stated, i find baby oil a good sharpening medium, light weight and cleans off easy when washing the stones.
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Re: Knife sharpening

Post by sprintcyclist » Wed May 15, 2019 7:26 pm

Yes, it is very hard to maintain 14 degrees of angle manually.
I am getting better but any sort of jig will be an improvement.

Mine are water stones. 2 from Japan, 1 from 'somewhere else'.

My sharpening is improving. Other people who I sharpen knives for are impressed
I doubt I could make any money from this when retired. Who knows?
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Re: Knife sharpening

Post by Bobby » Wed May 15, 2019 9:32 pm

Do you want an edge better than any factory?

https://www.edgeproinc.com/professional ... m-p56.html

US$705.00
Pro 4 Kit - Professional Model Edge Pro Sharpening System

System Includes

Professional Model Edge Pro Sharpening System
120 Grit Coarse water stone
220 Grit Medium Fine water stone
400 Grit Fine water stone
600 Grit Extra Fine water stone
1000 Grit Ultra fine water stone
1 Pack of 2000 Grit Polish Tapes (15 per pack)
1 Pack of 3000 Grit Polish Tapes (15 per pack)
1 Pack of 6000 Grit Polish Tapes (15 per pack)
3 Polish Tape Mounting Blanks
10" 1200 Grit Ceramic Hone
Micro-fiber Towel
Water Bottle
Scissor Attachment
Instructional DVD
Instructional Manual
All enclosed in a Hard Shell Carrying Case with custom foam fitted interior

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Re: Knife sharpening

Post by sprintcyclist » Thu May 16, 2019 7:32 am

Well, where is the human involvement there?

I like the manual method
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Re: Knife sharpening

Post by Valkie » Thu May 16, 2019 8:58 am

Bobby wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 9:32 pm
Do you want an edge better than any factory?

https://www.edgeproinc.com/professional ... m-p56.html

US$705.00
Pro 4 Kit - Professional Model Edge Pro Sharpening System

System Includes

Professional Model Edge Pro Sharpening System
120 Grit Coarse water stone
220 Grit Medium Fine water stone
400 Grit Fine water stone
600 Grit Extra Fine water stone
1000 Grit Ultra fine water stone
1 Pack of 2000 Grit Polish Tapes (15 per pack)
1 Pack of 3000 Grit Polish Tapes (15 per pack)
1 Pack of 6000 Grit Polish Tapes (15 per pack)
3 Polish Tape Mounting Blanks
10" 1200 Grit Ceramic Hone
Micro-fiber Towel
Water Bottle
Scissor Attachment
Instructional DVD
Instructional Manual
All enclosed in a Hard Shell Carrying Case with custom foam fitted interior
So.....basically a Ruixin knife sharpener in a box.

The original tool I have has been heavily modified to make it even better.
Knife collectors like myself have been modifying these devices to get better and more accurate edges for years.

While I do agree, some people prefer the more hands on approach, more traditional, I also know that it takes many many years of practice to perfect the technique.

I remember watching a Japanese gentleman hand sharpening a samurai sword by hand that he had made.
Fascinating, slow and very time consuming.
I was offered the hand made sword for $10,000.00 which was in fact a bargain.
But justifying it to my wife woukd be nigh on impossible.

Besides, I don't collect swords, only knives.
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My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream

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Re: Knife sharpening

Post by sprintcyclist » Thu May 16, 2019 9:09 am

Valkie wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 8:58 am
Bobby wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 9:32 pm
Do you want an edge better than any factory?

https://www.edgeproinc.com/professional ... m-p56.html

US$705.00
Pro 4 Kit - Professional Model Edge Pro Sharpening System

System Includes

Professional Model Edge Pro Sharpening System
120 Grit Coarse water stone
220 Grit Medium Fine water stone
400 Grit Fine water stone
600 Grit Extra Fine water stone
1000 Grit Ultra fine water stone
1 Pack of 2000 Grit Polish Tapes (15 per pack)
1 Pack of 3000 Grit Polish Tapes (15 per pack)
1 Pack of 6000 Grit Polish Tapes (15 per pack)
3 Polish Tape Mounting Blanks
10" 1200 Grit Ceramic Hone
Micro-fiber Towel
Water Bottle
Scissor Attachment
Instructional DVD
Instructional Manual
All enclosed in a Hard Shell Carrying Case with custom foam fitted interior
So.....basically a Ruixin knife sharpener in a box.

The original tool I have has been heavily modified to make it even better.
Knife collectors like myself have been modifying these devices to get better and more accurate edges for years.

While I do agree, some people prefer the more hands on approach, more traditional, I also know that it takes many many years of practice to perfect the technique.

I remember watching a Japanese gentleman hand sharpening a samurai sword by hand that he had made.
Fascinating, slow and very time consuming.
I was offered the hand made sword for $10,000.00 which was in fact a bargain.
But justifying it to my wife woukd be nigh on impossible.

Besides, I don't collect swords, only knives.

' ...... While I do agree, some people prefer the more hands on approach, more traditional, I also know that it takes many many years of practice to perfect the technique. ...... '

That sounds exactly like me.
Right Wing is the Natural Progression.

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Re: Knife sharpening

Post by Valkie » Thu May 16, 2019 11:24 am

sprintcyclist wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 9:09 am
Valkie wrote:
Thu May 16, 2019 8:58 am
Bobby wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 9:32 pm
Do you want an edge better than any factory?

https://www.edgeproinc.com/professional ... m-p56.html

US$705.00
Pro 4 Kit - Professional Model Edge Pro Sharpening System

System Includes

Professional Model Edge Pro Sharpening System
120 Grit Coarse water stone
220 Grit Medium Fine water stone
400 Grit Fine water stone
600 Grit Extra Fine water stone
1000 Grit Ultra fine water stone
1 Pack of 2000 Grit Polish Tapes (15 per pack)
1 Pack of 3000 Grit Polish Tapes (15 per pack)
1 Pack of 6000 Grit Polish Tapes (15 per pack)
3 Polish Tape Mounting Blanks
10" 1200 Grit Ceramic Hone
Micro-fiber Towel
Water Bottle
Scissor Attachment
Instructional DVD
Instructional Manual
All enclosed in a Hard Shell Carrying Case with custom foam fitted interior
So.....basically a Ruixin knife sharpener in a box.

The original tool I have has been heavily modified to make it even better.
Knife collectors like myself have been modifying these devices to get better and more accurate edges for years.

While I do agree, some people prefer the more hands on approach, more traditional, I also know that it takes many many years of practice to perfect the technique.

I remember watching a Japanese gentleman hand sharpening a samurai sword by hand that he had made.
Fascinating, slow and very time consuming.
I was offered the hand made sword for $10,000.00 which was in fact a bargain.
But justifying it to my wife woukd be nigh on impossible.

Besides, I don't collect swords, only knives.

' ...... While I do agree, some people prefer the more hands on approach, more traditional, I also know that it takes many many years of practice to perfect the technique. ...... '

That sounds exactly like me.
I hear you.
I am a traditionalist in some areas.
I collect and rebuild mechanical clocks, love the damn things.

When preparing the cases, I use French polishing, a time consuming and very unforgiving exercise.
But it gives a beautiful finish which seems deeper than other finishes.

I also build wooden clocks, with wooden gears.
The only metal components are the axles.
I cut them by hand on a fretsaw, individually, some gears can take hours to cut out.
Then they have to be polished and fitted.
My last clock took 4 months to build.

Knives, while an interest to me, are predominantly tools.
So I look at the most efficient way to get that perfect edge.

I have never been good enough to get an edge anywhere near as sharp free hand, as I can achieve with y knife sharpener.
I have a dream
A world free from the plague of Islam
A world that has never known the horrors of the cult of death.
My hope is that in time, Islam will be nothing but a bad dream

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