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Re: MORSI

Post by Super Nova » Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:58 pm

Black Orchid wrote:Apparently American international aid cannot be given to an army that has carried out a military coup and America''s international aid is worth $1.3 billion annually to Egypt. That's gonna hurt.
It will not hurt. they will continue to provide the aid I bet. they will find a way around it if it is in law.
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Re: MORSI

Post by Rorschach » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:15 am

Morsi says he's back and has never been arrested... this has a long way to go.
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Re: MORSI

Post by AiA in Atlanta » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:45 pm

I am willing to write off large parts of the world ... if the US were not propping up Saudi Arabia they would have had their revolution long ago, gone through chaos and would be on the other side and doing pretty fucking well but instead ....

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Post by Super Nova » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:05 pm

AiA in Atlanta wrote:I am willing to write off large parts of the world ... if the US were not propping up Saudi Arabia they would have had their revolution long ago, gone through chaos and would be on the other side and doing pretty fucking well but instead ....
Agree.

The US and the UK have a lot to be accountable for in this region.

Bring back the empire and control these backward tribes. Oh.... that is being done by America... just badly.

Saudi is everything the US is not so why are they supported. Simple, Oil plus a stable state run by a dictator that represses everyone, particularly women can be tolerated if the oil supply is secured. It's call "looking after American's Interest". I look forward to the day when the US is self sufficient for their energy needs. That will be soon.

Then watch out middle east.
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Re: MORSI

Post by Super Nova » Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:31 pm

I don't like Blair however I do support this part of his view.

"“The only way you’re going to get back to a proper democratic path is to support the government,” Mr Blair said. "

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Syria.html
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Re: MORSI

Post by Super Nova » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:25 pm

If you have a military coup you enter the world of war. the first causality is truth.

I expect we will see a civil war if they are not careful. The only thing holding that back is the power the military have over the countries infrastructure and revenue and resources.

also they are very powerful politically.

I am no fan of the Bros but if this doesn't get sorted soon, there will be big trouble.
What has happened in Egypt?

Events reached a pivotal point at dawn this morning when shots were fired outside the Republican Guard headquarters in Cairo, killing 42 and injuring hundreds. There are two opposing versions of the incident. The military claims there was an attempt to storm the compound - where President Mohammed Morsi had been held after he was deposed - by "armed terrorists" at dawn, forcing the guards to return fire to repel the attack. The Muslim Brotherhood, backed by the accounts of dozens of injured survivors, said a detachment of soldiers advanced from behind on hundreds of people performing dawn prayers outside the compound.
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Re: MORSI

Post by Super Nova » Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:14 pm

This shit storm is not going to blow over.

It looked to me like the army was just shooting people with no real justification. Check out the snipers just picking people off from the roofs.

Egypt: Islamists call for uprising after 50 shot dead on the streets of Cairo
Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood has called for a national uprising in response to the deaths of more than 50 supporters of the deposed president, Mohammed Morsi, who were shot dead at a sit-in.

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Re: MORSI

Post by Rorschach » Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:49 pm

yes saw and heard the claims today... also saw the military being fired upon :roll:
guess they did have a reason to fire back after all.

Like I too have said earlier... it aint over yet not by a long chalk
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Post by Super Nova » Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:50 pm

Rorschach wrote:yes saw and heard the claims today... also saw the military being fired upon :roll:
guess they did have a reason to fire back after all.

Like I too have said earlier... it aint over yet not by a long chalk
Being fired upon and responding by indiscriminately killing 50 people and injury 200 is not a balanced response. unless those 50 were carry weapons... no evidence of that yet.
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Re: MORSI

Post by Rorschach » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:01 pm

A bit like walking up to a tank isn't it.

But you can't expect soldiers to take on fire when in the open and not return fire. They aren't bullet proof you know.
I'm also not sure how indiscriminate it was either there was at least 20 or 30 people grouped together where i saw gunfire coming from.
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