Govt. allows massive fishing trawler to take what they want

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Post by mantra » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:00 am

Mattus has a point. Our prime agricultural land is been sold off to large mining companies to ravage - or to other nations so they can feed their own people not us, but trawler fishing is outright vandalism and will cause huge repercussions.

On the other hand the government has just expanded our marine reserves which sounds good in theory, but in the fact much of it is still subject to mining and commercial fishing which defeats the whole purpose of having a reserve.

There is no consistency and ultimately very little good will come of this especially as the small fishermen will be penalised, but the large ones won't. The multinationals win on every count.

The government is selling off our sovereignity to the highest bidder. Australia is no longer "our" country and belongs to the rest of the world.
AUSTRALIA is to establish the world's largest network of marine reserves, which will ring the country and cover more than 3 million square kilometres of waters to protect reefs and marine life, Environment Minister Tony Burke will announce today.

After years of consultation and planning, Mr Burke will release the final plan for the massive expansion of marine reserves, which include key waters such as the Coral Sea and pygmy blue whale habitats off the southern coast of Western Australia.

But the plan is likely to disappoint conservationists, who were pressing for more waters to be classed as sanctuaries or marine national parks, the highest levels of protection. Instead, the final plan will be a patchwork of zones, some of which will still allow mining and certain types of commercial fishing.

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Post by mantra » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:03 am

IQS.RLOW wrote: That's life at the top of the food chain. It should be celebrated and not used by those a few rungs lower on the socio-economic ladder as a guilt trip to get others to blindly follow a path that makes little sense other than to bolster the falsehood that is the precautionary principle
When there are only a few predators left at the top of the food chain with nothing further down - they'll have to start eating each other.

Life did exist before Greenies - but that includes before extreme capitalists also. If we only took what we needed, we could all manage adequately.

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Post by IQS.RLOW » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:06 am

The trouble is that greenies want to be the ones who decide what is 'needed' and what is not

I say, fuck you greenies
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Re: Govt. allows massive fishing trawler to take what they w

Post by Black Orchid » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:35 pm

I don't think you have to be a 'greenie' to be concerned about the consequences of over fishing, the selling off of our resources and country to overseas corporations and clear fell logging etc

Depleting the ocean is not a viable solution to providing low cost food to African and Asian countries. Everyone should be not only concerned but alarmed into action.

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Post by Jovial Monk » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:47 pm

Really, the globe can only support like 3Bn people and it will get that one way or the order (one or more of the Four Horsemen or we consciously implement a population reduction policy so Horseman it will be, and we are helping that with overfishing, with GMO food and with global warming.)

Anything less is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

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Post by boxy » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:36 pm

IQS.RLOW wrote:The trouble is that greenies want to be the ones who decide what is 'needed' and what is not

I say, fuck you greenies
The alternative is to let the free market decide.

Basically, that is how rabbits manage their environment. They breed, and they breed and they breed until the land can support no more.

And then a huge proportion of them die, horribly.

Of course, we can't really blame them, they don't have the intelligence to comprehend concepts such as carrying capacity, interdependence, eco-systems, boom and bust cycles and contraception.

What will be our excuse?
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Post by Jovial Monk » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:43 pm

Greed and the absence of intelligence.

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Post by boxy » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:39 pm

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Noun:
  • Excessive pride or self-confidence.
  • (in Greek tragedy) Excessive pride toward or defiance of the gods, leading to nemesis.
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Post by Jovial Monk » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:45 pm

Whom the gods would destroy. . .

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Post by mantra » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:32 pm

The trawler is now trying to head this way, but fortunately Greenpeace have got the anchor and a few other bits chained up and they can't move. Depending on what action the authorities take - Greenpeace will continue restricting it.

The trawler is 142 metres long. Wherever these bottom crawler monsters cruise - they leave nothing behind them. The drag nets can be 2 kms in circumference and scoop up everything within its path.

Australians are just starting to find out about the alleged deal Gillard has done with this company and when approached she was non-committal. As approx half of our farmland is now owned by foreign companies - it seems the fish in Australian waters are also up for grabs.

These trawlers only need a few people to man them as they are fully automated - yet they put thousands of small fisherman out of work. They can easily catch and store up to a thousand tons of fish a day.

Commercial fish processing ships can affect birds, whales, dolphins, turtles and sharks by their broad reach methods of catching fish.

Purse seine ships, with nets up to two kilometres in circumference, can encircle whole shoals of pelagic fish, such as mackerel, herring and tuna.

A major international scientific study released in November 2006 in the journal Science found that about one-third of all fishing stocks worldwide have collapsed (with a collapse being defined as a decline to less than 10% of their maximum observed abundance), and that if current trends continue all fish stocks worldwide will collapse within fifty years.

The FAO State of World Fisheries and Aquaculture 2004 report estimates that in 2003, of the main fish stocks or groups of resources for which assessment information is available, "approximately one-quarter were overexploited, depleted or recovering from depletion (16%, 7% and 1% respectively) and needed rebuilding.

The threat of overfishing is not limited to the target species only. As trawlers resort to deeper and deeper waters to fill their nets, they have begun to threaten delicate deep-sea ecosystems and the fish that inhabit them, such as the coelacanth.In the May 15, 2003 issue of the journal Nature, it is estimated that 10% of large predatory fish remain compared to levels before commercial fishing. Many fisheries experts, however, consider this claim to be exaggerated with respect to tuna populations.

From 1950 (18 million tons) to 1969 (56 million tons) fishfood production grew by about 5% each year; from 1969 onward production has raised 8% annually. It is expected that this demand will continue to rise, and MariCulture Systems estimated in 2002 that, by 2010, seafood production would have to increase by over 15.5 million tonnes to meet the desire of Earth's growing population. This is likely to further aggravate the problem of overfishing, unless aquaculture technology expands to meet the needs of human population.

Overfishing has depleted fish populations to the point that large scale commercial fishing, on average around the world, is not economically viable without government assistance. Many states offer unsustainable subsidies to their fishing fleets. According to Oceana, the global fishing fleet is currently up to 250 percent larger than it needs to be to catch what the oceans can sustainably produce.


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