Sharia Law in Australia

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Sharia Law in Australia

Post by mantra » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:21 am

The Islamic Council has been pushing for a long time for Australia to have Sharia Law integrated with our own, although at the moment I doubt it would be too popular. Some aspects of Sharia Law aren't too bad, especially when we see so much crime going unpunished many of us wish that our Courts would impose heavier penalties. It would certainly make for a more law abiding nation if we adopted a few aspects of this law.

I saw a documentary on quite a benign little Muslim village where they practised Sharia Law on alcoholics - they were given 100 lashes. The town functioned quite well and was very industrious because everyone was sober. One magistrate only dished out all the sentences and they ran an informal Court. Surprisingly the community was very happy with this arrangement (except for the alcoholics of course).
AUSTRALIA'S Muslims would not move towards a parallel legal system if some Islamic practices were better integrated into the existing legal framework, a University of Sydney academic said.

The Sydney law school lecturer Ghena Krayem said extensive interviews with NSW Muslim leaders and community members found they were not seeking a recognition of sharia in areas where it was contrary to existing Australian law, such as polygamy.

But where in practice both systems overlapped - such as marriage and divorce - they sought a better integration of Islamic principles, enhancing social cohesion without legislative change.
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Dr Krayem, whose doctoral thesis on the topic is the first empirical study of its kind, said ad hoc mediation of marriage breakdowns by imams - a practice which already operated in the shadow of the law - would benefit from procedural safeguards such as the transparency and accountability of the dispute resolution system of the Family Law Act.

''Whilst these informal community processes at the moment, they're meeting a need, there are aspects that need to be improved - and even our community leaders and religious leaders acknowledged that,'' she said.

Dr Krayem said the financial rights of women, often negotiated differently within the religion if a wife initiated the divorce, could also be better protected if the contract typically drafted in Islamic marriages was treated as if were a legal pre-nuptial agreement.

''The most valuable thing for Muslim women is they need to know what they can add into that contract because it's the most powerful path for them to ensure they've safeguarded their rights under Islamic law,'' she said.

Dr Krayem, a Muslim who trained as a family dispute resolution practitioner, said the approach could also take the sting out of the public debate surrounding sharia in Australia.

''I also think to not do anything about it at all, to dismiss this whole argument, is actually pushing the community towards setting up a parallel legal system.''

It was a question of improving access to existing legal avenues for dispute resolution for people of diverse cultural and linguistic backgrounds, not just Muslims.

She said an argument could be made for legislative change to allow those certified to marry people, such as religious leaders, to also legally divorce them, when issues of property settlements or custody could be excluded.

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Re: Sharia Law in Australia

Post by boxy » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:02 pm

I, for one, welcome our new insect overloards.
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Re: Sharia Law in Australia

Post by mantra » Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:57 am

I think we'll have to get used to them and better that we acquiesce a little in their favour, than send them underground.

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Re: Sharia Law in Australia

Post by Bart » Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:12 am

If they want to live in a society with sharian law then simply fly back to the middle east (or wherever)!
No, instead they want to change our society. They don't want to assimilate to our culture and way of life. Would their homeland assimilate to Australia, I think not.
Funny how they didn't want to change their middle eastern country's way of life isn't it!


And of course sharian law would be the accused choice to be applied when they choose to wouldn't it when Australian law maybe too harsh. And when Australian law was the more lenient then they'd want that, otherwise they'd scream to being treated differently!
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Re: Sharia Law in Australia

Post by Super Nova » Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:44 pm

They are trying it on everywhere.

They raised this here in the UK. It will go nowhere.

I agree, if they want their Islamic laws to apply they should go home. They love the benefits and freedoms of our society except where it doesn't suit them.

There is an agenda to make the whole world run under islamic laws. Sharia is an extreme subset of the interpretation of the laws of Islam.

They need to reform Islam.
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Re: Sharia Law in Australia

Post by Bart » Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:34 pm

Can we also have a law for redheads?
Oh and one for lefthanded people.
Oh and we can't forget a law for the fat and one for the ugly.

And if you fall into each category then that person can choose which category they can be judged by.
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Re: Sharia Law in Australia

Post by mellie » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:49 pm

We have laws in this country, I see no benefit in introducing cultural laws to please electorates.

I think if we start introducing cultural-laws to please some, this will leave the door open for others to introduce theirs, where do we draw the line?



Cant introduce some and not others, this would be discriminatory if we just stopped at introducing Sharia law.



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Re: Sharia Law in Australia

Post by mellie » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:05 pm

Super Nova wrote:They are trying it on everywhere.

They raised this here in the UK. It will go nowhere.

I agree, if they want their Islamic laws to apply they should go home. They love the benefits and freedoms of our society except where it doesn't suit them.

There is an agenda to make the whole world run under islamic laws. Sharia is an extreme subset of the interpretation of the laws of Islam.

They need to reform Islam.

And they aren't the only ones however...

http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/getaus.html
http://www.join.org.au/letters/harness.htm

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